PMQs verdict: An unedifying spectacle

November 2, 2011 1:23 pm

As a PMQs geek (for my sins) I rarely watch a session of the weekly without being able to take something away from it – an insight into the thinking of a senior politician perhaps or a new issue bubbling away under the surface – but today that’s tricky. This wasn’t a PMQs entirely without merit, but it was pretty close.

The atmosphere in the chamber – as has become customary in recent weeks – was poisonous. The Labour benches cheered and jeered from the start, and were matched in ugly behaviour by their counterparts on the government benches. The shadow chancellor sought to stoke tensions by adopting the “flatlining” gesture that he has come to adopt – like an exciteable cricket umpire –  ever more frequently as the economy rattles around at the lower end of what could be considered “growth”. In parliamentary terms it’s an effective tactic. Cameron – who seems to have something of an obsession with Balls – never ceases to fall for the goading. Yet whilst Cameron’s reaction is unattractive, so is the provocation that brings it. Recently a friend, who otherwise has little interest in politics, told me they found Ed Balls “smug”. When he smiles as he goads the PM over bad economic news, he should think about how he comes across too.

At times it became difficult to remember which one of these men was the PM and which was the opposition leader, as both men sought to define themselves against the status quo – tricky ground indeed for a Tory leader (or a former cabinet minister) to claim comfortably. It was as if there were two opposition leaders, both battling for public approval, but neither offering anything that could be seen as clear leadership. Both men were playing to the gallery – but neither seemed entirely sure of what the gallery wanted to hear. There was bombast aplenty, but attempts at knockout blows seemed to serially misfire.

Despite the poor quality of debate – perhaps because of it – we did get some absolute clangers from the Prime Minister. He talked about the global nature of the financial crisis (something he readily mock Gordon Brown for). He quoted Rowan Williams on greed in society (which shows that he’s aware of the potency of attacks that he’s out of touch). And for the piece de resistance, as Miliband sat down he attacked him for hiring a tax exile to run his election campaign. The irony of this statement, coming from the bank who happily took Ashcroft’s coin, was too much for some on the Labour benches, whose guffaws weren’t quite drowned out by the Tory cheers. A similar – although more feminine – guffaw was audible when Cameron stated that he wanted to see more women in britain’s boardrooms.

The Prime Minister is a man who is aware of his weaknesses – the difficulty he’s going to face is that his unsubtle attempts to address them inspire laughter, rather than fear, in his opponents.

Perhaps I was wrong…perhaps there’s a valuable lesson to come out of this PMQs after all.

  • GuyM

    PMQs was totally bloody awful.

    Milliband sticking with the inane tactic of asking off the wall questions on specific bits of government policy and ignoring his own failings over 13 years and Cameron completely at sea with how to deal with it (I sometimes think a 6th form debating team could do better) aas he was scrabbling through his folder of papers.

    Balls with his usual rude and destructive heckling, cronies on both sides asking planted questions often with false anger.

    One of the few people to come out of it well was Alistair Darling who as always comes across as thoughtful and a man with both manners and ethics, even to those on the opposite side of politics to him.

    It was dire Mark, totally cringe making to watch and a pitiful excuse for the supposed cream of UK politics.

  • http://twitter.com/jayuux jason green

    Mark have you managed  to read the FT’s Westminster blog’s write up of PMQs? What Kiran Stacey has gleaned is rather interesting.  http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2011/11/pmqs-cameron-forced-to-the-left/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ft%2Fwestminster+%28Westminster+Blog%29#axzz1cUat4wWy

    This should be the tactic of the leadership. Cameron’s footing on Labour ground could never be a sure as Labour’s was on Tory ground.

    • Anonymous

      Thanks for the link to a very good piece in the FT.

      It reinforces what I had observed over the past year:  Ed M had been ahead of the curve and dictated the political narrative at every turn- from the squeezed middle, to responsibility from the top and bottom of society, and most recently, on producers/predators in business practices. 

      The sideway shuffling crab that is Cameron just do not have the principled integrity to say anything of import. Merely jumping on wagons is his forte.

  • Anonymous

    Excellent write up and analysis Mark; unfortunately I’ve not yet seen!
    (Did tape though…)

    It sounds as if things are reaching a new low; I don’t think much can be acheived in that kind of atmosphere.

    What about the positive steps being made behind the scenes over issues like cross party talks on social care funding? Why are those issues not mentioned much in PMQ’s?

    If anything to add after watching, I’ll try to add my pennies’ worth!

    Jo

    • Anonymous

      PS-I share some of those perceptions about Ed B if I’m being really honest; but equally I think he’s done an excellent job in flagging up issues on the economy.

      Jo

    • jaime taurosangastre candelas

      Jo,

      how on earth can you possibly say “Excellent write up and analysis” when you haven’t seen the debate?  Or indeed on another article about the union response to some new pension proposals “excellent article, sorry just found” (and that is the total of your post)?

      Does your personal ascription of “excellence” only extend as far as tribalism, right or wrong, or do you ever invest some intellectual rigour into your analysis?

      On a longer term basis, why do you you think anyone else at all in the entire country would care so much about your busy life that we need to be breathlessly told that you have skim-read some article, don’t have time to read the whole thing, want to express support or disappointment nevertheless, but want to return later?  This seems to be a feature of your posts, but no one else’s. To be truthful, no one cares about your transient views.  Why don’t you do us all a favour and stop posting stream of consciousness nonsense until you have actually read the post and the links, and can post an opinion that actually reflects what you really think?

      Perhaps your attitude to instant posting is why you so very often have to come back the following morning to delete your previous evening’s posts.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Homfray/510980099 Mike Homfray

        This sort of comment is for the monitors to make – not you. You’re such a bully – is this how you normally treat people?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Homfray/510980099 Mike Homfray

      I think the problem is much broader than PMQ. The HoC is essentially set up to be an adversary chamber – the parties sit opposite each other, and the structure of PMQ is such that it is actually designed to allow some ‘letting off of steam’ – but it only happens because parliament is as it is, if you see what I mean.

      Just about every PM and leader of the opposition talk about Punch and Judy and making it less adversarial, but what exactly would it be for if that was the case?

      • Anonymous

        Hi Mike, thankyou.

        I’d like to see more of a debating and discussion chamber rather than
        what sometimes appears to be feigned confrontation or simplistic ear bashing.
        Fair enough if there is genuine disagreement over issues; but there are ways to discuss this without using phrases like “mug” etc.

        Did you watch the televised debates at the last election?

        What came out strongly was that the public/audiences surveyed strongly dislike overtly negative commentary or constant dispute, and are turned off by it.

        So if political parties and politicans are trying to regain trust and encourage engagement and participation, this seems counterproductive.

        I’m sure some revel in the theatre and entertainment aspects; but it hardly seems to reflect the reality of how politics probably works behind the scenes? 

        For example, there is probably more cross party co operation on some issues and respect between MP’s from all sides of the House.

        I don’t think the public need this pantomime spectacle as its only diet of politics;
        it just reinforces the negative ideas that probably already exist about politicans out there, perpetuated by some parts of the media.

        I personally do enjoy on occasions, but it does often seem a waste of time and energy when one considers the pressing issues at present, that we need intelligent and nuanced debate on.

        Cheers Mike, and take care.

        Jo 

  • Anonymous

    PMQ’s to day forget the simplistic banter between Blair and ,Sorry Cameron and Miliband, today was about pension with some of the worse questions from the Tories, fixed in advance to try and get over to Union members that this offer was great, all the rest of PMQ’s was moronic and worthless.

    It has now become a punch and Judy show, at least when Blair was in power he had some brilliant put downs, Miliband does not even have those, and Cameron’s only come back has been bluster.

    I can imagine Miliband and Cameron walking out saying that went well mate.

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