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February 27, 2012 2:16 pm

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The following statement has been released by Falkirk CLP in response to an alleged incident involving Labour MP Eric Joyce last week:

“It is a matter of grave disappointment that Eric Joyce MP has been involved in an alleged incident. Falkirk CLP do not condone such alleged conduct and welcome the prompt suspension by the Labour Party of Mr Joyce. Falkirk expects and deserves the best representation and highest standards of behaviour from its elected representatives. If the recent alleged events are proven then we expect Mr Joyce to do the right thing.”

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  • treborc

    I hope he does, and I also if Mr Joyce is found to be ill they also do the right thing, works both ways mind you.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7Z2KKBHSH4VQSKABV7ZSI3CVDQ WILLIAM

      I am genuinely quite shocked Treborc. A measured response and no automatic assumption of guilt. The Labour party usually does do the right thing if one of their MPs is found guilty of a criminal offence.

      • treborc

         Well of course having had a stroke, lost the use of my legs, bowel and bladder, I tend to lean to the view, people who have problem with illness should be helped not added to the burden. Drink when abused can be a very serious addiction and addiction are of course is a form of illness.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7Z2KKBHSH4VQSKABV7ZSI3CVDQ WILLIAM

          Sorry to hear about your illness Treborc. Agreed. Alcohol is dangerous and alcoholic addiction even more dangerous.

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  • Chilbaldi

    I would expect the Labour Party to “do the right thing” if it was found that Mr Joyce was suffering from medical or other difficulties. Not by way of excusing his actions mind, but by offering him the appropriate help and support.

    I find this cutting him loose attitude highly distasteful. Falkirk’s statement is moronic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=697126564 Paul Halsall

    Was there anything homophobic in attacking an Tory MP who happens to be openly gay?

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Homfray/510980099 Mike Homfray

      I don’t think so, Paul. I doubt he was sober enough to realise who he was thumping. If alcohol is at the root of the problem it won’t be for the first time

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  • UKAzeri

    am I the only one who hopes the ‘zidane’ move was down to the heated NHS deabte?!! :) ))

    • John Ruddy

      I have heard that he got angry at the bar being full of “smug tories”. Since the vote to release the risk register was won by the Government just a couple of hours before, that may be partly the cause.

      • AlanGiles

        With all due respect, John, that hardly excuses physical violence (and it has to be said that New Labour ministers also refused to release the risk register themselves). I am as guilty as anyone in losing my temper verbally, but I would never think of giving even Purnell , Blair or David Miliband a haymaker!. It is just totally unacceptable whatever the provocation

        • treborc

          Interesting how would you tell which person was labour and which is Tory. they share the same colour blood

          • Bairn

            I understand that the gallant major has decided to go walk about to clear his head. Fine…. But is he drawing his parliamentary salary or any expenses during this time? You is representing his constituency during this time? I agree the honourable thing to do is resign…… I wonder if he is?

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  • AlanGiles

    After a statement like that, if I were Mr Joyce, I think I would tender my resignation. It is not exactly a ringing endorsement and if I were him, I’d salvage what I had left of my reputation and make a dignified exit. 

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7Z2KKBHSH4VQSKABV7ZSI3CVDQ WILLIAM

      Guilty before a trial eh Alan? You read a lot of Mein Kampf do you? I don’t know if you are aware but in this country we have something called a criminal justice system it is based on an assumption of innocence before the due process of law takes place. This usually involves something called a trial in which conflicting evidence is evaluated. You must take a look next time.

      • AlanGiles

        With respect William you used the Mein Kampf jibe to somebody else the other day, so it’s lost a little of it’s lustre, a little of it’s “shock” value.

        The events we are discussing were witnessed by several people including at least one of his own Labour colleagues.

        Of course, if everybody only imagined they saw Mr Joyce strike a blow, or singing loudly and using obscene beligerant langauge, or those witnesses are prepared to pervert the course of justice by saying they saw these incidents  when they didn’t, Mr Joyce will be found not guilty, and presumably Falkirk L.P. will not be looking for a new M.P.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7Z2KKBHSH4VQSKABV7ZSI3CVDQ WILLIAM

          Come on Alan you weren’t there and you don’t know. It’s up to a jury/magistrate to decide guilt or innocence after hearing the evidence. Your system of assuming people are guilty before any  proper evidence has been presented and evaluated doesn’t really work very well. It’s been tried before-look up Cambodian history (1975-1979) for instance and see what you think.

          • AlanGiles

            So we are to assume then, William, that every M.P. every guest, every journalist and every police officer who witnessed these events were mistaken, and they all have some ulterior motive in fabricating these stories?

            If you say so…….

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7Z2KKBHSH4VQSKABV7ZSI3CVDQ WILLIAM

            All I’m saying is that innocence should be assumed before guilt is proven. The alternative as shown by history is unfair, unjust, unpleasant and frankly unthinkable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Barker/1546990341 Paul Barker

    I doubt Joyces defence will involve disputing the events, too many witnesses seem to agree on what happened.
    I agree that the HoC is an unforgiving place that wrecks a lot MPs marriages & health.
    The real point though is that Joyce is obviously not fit   to do his job right now & should step down so his constituents can have an MP working for them.
    Iam not SNP so I dont have a horse inthis race.

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