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February 3, 2012 10:40 am

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At Prime Minister’s Questions this week, responding to a question about the Government’s top-down reorganisation of the NHS, David Cameron said that hospital “waiting times are down”. Yet official figures show that the number of patients not being treated within 18 weeks has soared by 43% since the coalition took office.

This error was a big whopper by David Cameron, but it is not especially unusual for his outings at PMQs. As Jason Beattie revealed in the Mirror last week, when it comes to playing fast and loose with the truth, this prime minister has form. At PMQs on 25 January, Cameron wrongly claimed that “there are more people in work today than there were at the time of the last election”. In fact, the Office for National Statistics says there are now 26,000 fewer people in work than at the last election. Again on the 25 January, Cameron wrongly claimed that disabled children would not have their benefits cut, despite a Department for Work and Pensions’ assessment on the new universal credit showing that the rate paid to disabled children will fall from £53.84 to £26.75 a week.

It is not difficult to find other recent examples. Last September, the Prime Minister claimed that “since the election there are 500,000 more jobs in the private sector”. However, you can only get to this figure by including the whole of the second quarter of 2010, including April 2010, when Labour was still in power. According to the Office for National Statistics, 129,000 jobs were created in April 2010 – before the election. The hard truth for the Government is that over the last three months, for every job being created in the private sector, 13 are being lost in the public sector.

It seems that Cameron either cannot be bothered to do the work and get his facts right, or he is simply happy to be deliberately misleading. This matters because it tells a story about what sort of a prime minister we have. It absolutely speaks to his character. Week after week, at Prime Minister’s Questions, David Cameron is revealed to be arrogant, disingenuous and out of touch. And if you want further evidence, here are ten more “whoppers” from Cameron:

Ten more whoppers from Cameron at PMQs:

30 March 2011: Getting his facts wrong on university funding

David Cameron said that “because of the system we’re introducing we will actually be spending more overall on universities, that’s right”. In fact, the Spending Review set out a 40% cut in the overall resource budget for Higher Education by 2014-15.

9 March 2011: Getting his facts wrong on per pupil funding

David Cameron said that “the per pupil funding that is in place is not going down and is being maintained”. In fact, according to theIFS, rising pupil numbers mean that average spending per pupil will fall in real terms by 0.6% per year, or by 2.15% over four years.

25 January 2012: Getting his facts wrong on bank lending

David Cameron said that the Merlin agreement between the Government and the banks “actually led to an increase in bank lending last year”. In fact, the latest Trends in Lending report from the Bank of England said that “the stock of lending to SMEs contracted between end-April and end-November 2011”.

9 February 2011: Getting his facts wrong on the Sure Start budget

David Cameron said that “the budget [for Sure Start] is going from £2,212 million to £2,297 million”. In fact, the budget he was referring to is falling by 10.9% between 2010-11 and 2011-12.

7 September 2011: Getting his facts wrong on the Winter Fuel Payment

David Cameron claimed that the Government was “going ahead with the winter fuel payment set out by the previous Labour Government in their Budget”. In fact, Labour never had the opportunity to set a Budget for 2011/12. George Osborne’s March 2011 Budget indicated that the winter fuel payment would revert to £200 for the over 60s and £300 for the over 80s in the winter of 2011-12 – a cut of £50 and £100 respectively.

6 July 2011: Getting his facts wrong on what his office knew about Andy Coulson

David Cameron said that the information his office had been given about Andy Coulson by the Guardian in February 2010 “contained no allegations directly linking Andy Coulson to illegal behaviour”. In fact, the information related to unpublished material suggesting that Coulson, as editor of the News of the World, had knowingly hired a private investigator who was involved with corrupt police officers. The Guardian’s editor, Alan Rusbridger, said: “The prime minister’s account of why he failed to act on the information we passed his office in February 2010 is highly misleading.”

15 June 2011: Getting his facts wrong on benefit cuts for cancer patients

David Cameron said that Ed Miliband was wrong to claim that 7,000 cancer patients would lose out as a result of the Government’s proposed changes to Employment Support Allowance, by arguing that “our definition of ‘terminally ill’ is exactly the same as the one used by the last Government”. But in fact, Ed Miliband was right about the impact of the changes. The issue had nothing to do with terminal illness and as his own minister Chris Grayling conceded, it “is not related to recovery times or to estimates of how long it takes to get over cancer”.

16 March 2011: Getting his facts wrong on council funding cuts

David Cameron said that Manchester city council’s funding is being cut by “less than my council”. In fact, for 2011/12, Manchester City Council’s formula grant has been cut by £43.26 million, while Cameron’s local West Oxfordshire council’s formula grant has fallen by £0.71m.

25 January 2012: Getting his facts wrong on children in workless households

David Cameron spoke of “the real shame… that there are so many millions of children who live in households where nobody works and indeed that number doubled under the previous government”. In fact, according to the Office for National Statistics, the number of children living in workless households fell by 372,000 between April-June 1997 and April-June 2010.

7 September 2011: Getting his facts wrong on child poverty

David Cameron said that “in better economic times, under the previous Government, child poverty actually went up”. In fact, according to the latest DWP figures, Labour lifted 900,000 children out of relative poverty and 2 million children out of absolute poverty between 1998/99 and 2009/10.

Michael Dugher is Labour MP for Barnsley East and shadow minister without portfolio

Anonymous

I have a disability so I know all about Labour and the Tories stories, for example you will be seen in eighteen weeks, ok when does that start, well it starts from the time the Consultant writes to you giving you an appointment.

A good one I had a small heart attack was seen by my GP who phoned the consultant , who said it would be within eight weeks as that was his waiting list for the NHS, my doctor said if he pays a fee, ah ok let me look , OK send him down today.

Then we had the waiting times within A&E people will be seen within Two hours once they had been seen by a triage nurse , of course if the nurse does not see you for six hours your going to wait a long time.

Nothing is what it seems when politician use political speak, we hear all the time of people waiting eighteen month to two years for appointments, waiting at A&E in ambulances and that was under labour.

I do not think any of this would be a surprise to people, not when you had Blair corkers of the Iraq war.

They mean little to the people in the streets because to be honest these days we expect it, it’s politicians.
JC

I didn’t know it was wrong for a PM to bend the truth in PMQs. When did this change?
- Anonymous
  
  Missiles can be launched in 45 minutes.
http://www.futureeconomics.org Diarmid Weir

This just shows what’s possible with a media either compliant or fixated on ‘celebrity’.
Dave Postles

Is the UK Statistics Authority monitoring these statements? What should the Speaker require as correction? Should every medium be required to report the correction? What is the correct response to misleading the House?
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZPXYLRVP4XOIGGDJWAL6HUO7U4 David
  
  Misleading the House remains a grave offence in parliamentary terms, however as I suspect the author knows this is not as simple as he/she lied, and the “truth” is this: both parties are routinely dressing up broad-sounding claims with very narrow definitions for maximum political impact.
  
  Perhaps a new offence needs to be brought forward: “knowingly misleading the public”.
  
  Take this sentence, as a case in point: “official figures show that the number of patients not being treated within 18 weeks has soared by 43% since the coalition took office”. Shocking. But is 18 weeks an “official” definition? Is it a measure that represents the subject of targets? It is reflective of waiting times across the board? Has 18 weeks been consistently used as the benchmark for waiting lists? Or is simply the measure that demonstrates the greatest variation in the direction the author wants it to “prove”?The point is this: both sides are doing this, and it is both enormously unhelpful, and frankly rather offensive to the intelligence of the listener (if PMQ) or reader (if here on LL). We cannot complain about Cameron making ridiculous claims (e.g. 7.5 week waiting times are down 99%) if we are playing the same game.
  
  Politics needs a strong dose of common sense.
http://profile.yahoo.com/TEQZIWK4A7RV5C74T66NLKS22Y Ivan White

Lying to Parliament used to be a resignation issue. That was why Profumo had to quit way back in June 1963.

Cameron is a disgrace to the office of Prime Minister.
- Anonymous
  
  Bull if that was true Blair would have been hung.
  - Daveyboy
    
    But Blair introduced a new approach: never resign or apologise no matter how serious your ‘mistakes’.
  - Anonymous
    
    Ha ha
Anonymous

David Cameron may well be shown to have lied over the statement he made about the Coulson information he claims not to have been told about by Alan Rusbridger if Glen Mulcaire’s imminent appeal against source disclosure were to fail. Maybe the word “directly” in the context of his communications officer being linked to illegal behaviour is there to give the PM the same “second chance that Andy deserves.”
On another point, Ed Miliband had an open goal when Cameron claimed in this week’s PMQs that hospital waiting times are down. If he had been briefed, as he should have been, with that 43% increase in patient numbers waiting 18 weeks or more, it would have been a virtual knockout in the context of NHS health reforms. You have to wonder why he failed to take advantage of a sitting duck: maybe he’s just not much good at thinking on his feet, poor guy.
Bill Oconnor

Mark

Any chance we can have treborc moderated off now and again? If I want to read the kind of stuff he writes there are lots of Tory sites I could go to in order to read it. I am all for debate
but in general he isn’t constructive or thought provoking.
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