If we all take offence, there will be no-one to vote for. See the big picture

March 24, 2012 9:00 pm

The Guardian columnist Jonathan Freedland – a brilliant and thoughtful writer – has written a piece setting out why he will not be voting for Ken Livingstone in May’s London mayoral election (“I’ve backed Ken Livingstone for mayor before, but this time I just can’t do it”).

Although recognising that Livingstone has “superior” ideas for London alongside Boris’s “policy black hole” he won’t be voting for the newt fancier this time around. Freedland, a Jew himself, says this is because Ken shows the Jewish community in London a “hard heart”.

He recites a charge sheet which is, I have to say, rather familiar: the seven-year old incident where Livingstone casually referred to Evening Standard journalist Oliver Feingold as a “concentration camp guard” (he’s Jewish). Also, Ken apparently told two Jewish property developers he fell out with to “go back to Iran” and see if they could “do better under the ayatollahs” (they were, in fact, from an Iraqi-Jewish background). And, of course, he invited the controversial Muslim cleric Yusuf al-Qaradawi to talks in London, despite his less than moderate utterances on, well, just about everything.

So far, so familiar. What seems to have provoked Freedland’s piece is a meeting Ken had with a group of Jewish Labour supporters recently (at which Jonathan was present) where Ken used the terms ‘Jewish’ ‘Zionist’ and ‘Israeli’ interchangeably. He is said to have gone on to make the argument that because elements of the Jewish community in London are fairly well-off they would not be inclined to vote for him. This, argues Freedland, shows Ken “doesn’t care what hurt he causes Jews”.

I know exactly what Jonathan means. As a Catholic I routinely have the same experience. The casual insults and snide digs are hurtful when they come from your own side. But I am still a Labour party member, even when I was asked in a selection process “I suppose you’ll be taking your orders from the Pope will you?”

I find it’s no different over at Jonathan’s paper, The Guardian. As a loyal reader from the age of fifteen, I have lost count of the anti-Catholic insults, sometimes juvenile, often snide, that routinely pop up in the paper. (There’s usually something every other day I reckon). But I am still reader. I get past the sneering of Jonathan’s colleagues (never him, I might add) by making the calculation that the paper’s commitment to social justice, internationalism and free speech is worth it.

The point is we can all get upset with our politicians and our newspapers. Back in 2008 the London Labour MEP Mary Honeyball launched an astonishing attack on British Catholics – and Labour’s Catholic cabinet ministers in particular – when she asked, in all seriousness, whether a Catholic should be allowed to serve in government:

“Should devout Catholics such as [Ruth] Kelly, [Des] Browne and [Paul] Murphy be allowed on the government front bench in the light of their predilection to favour the Pope’s word above the government’s?”

Incidentally, she wrote this bile in, where else, The Guardian.

I knew Catholics in London who were white with rage and desperately wanted to exact electoral revenge at the next European elections. “Every party has its berks” I advised, “look at the big picture and try to get past the occasional lapse.”

Under the regional list system there was little way to register a protest without depriving London’s other Labour candidates of support. Mary was bang out of order. Her insult then makes Ken’s lack of tact towards the Jewish community now pale into insignificance.

Politics requires an acceptance that there is a bigger picture – and it’s a landscape, not a portrait. The panorama is more important that the close-up.

If I look closely enough, I’m sure there will be things Ken has said or done recently that will wind me up too. Ken Livingstone is a big mouth, granted. He often turns-up the dial too far on his gesture politics. Yet I would rather have a mayor who speaks their mind, even when I disagree with them, than a bleached and packaged mannequin, designed to appeal equally to all groups in society. That way lies Mitt Romney.

Perhaps it is something to do with our political culture becoming too respectable? If you think Ken, or any other politician is talking rubbish, tell them so. Jonathan should have upbraided Ken to his face when he had the chance.

Let’s always be prepared to debate, discuss and disagree where we have to – but remember to see the big picture. Boycotts are childish. Had I been a London voter in 2009’s European elections, I would have ripped a strip off Mary Honeyball – and then held my nose and voted for her as part of the London list.

Jonathan – and any other person nursing a personal grievance against Ken – should do likewise. Why? Because when all is said and done I know Ken is as concerned about homelessness as I am. I know he is burning with rage at low pay, poverty, bad housing, crowded trains and unsafe streets. I know he will bust a gut to do something about them while Boris swans around biding time before he can return to the Commons and challenge for the Tory party leadership (yeah, right).

I hope Jonathan will reconsider his decision. His eloquence and manifest decency would be powerful attributes in mending fences where they need to be mended with London’s Jewish community.

I will make him a deal. If he does so, overlooking Ken’s foibles, I will try not to get too offended by the Guardian’s poseur sneering next time.

  • Guest

    What those people who aren’t on the party payroll know is that the only way to stop a party fielding absurdly unsuitable candidates is to refuse to vote for them. Whatever Boris Johnson’s considerable faults, his behaviour doesn’t appear to be at odds with the Conservative minded voters who campaign or turn out to vote for them.

    The big problem with Ken is that it’s become abundantly clear that he’ll say whatever it takes to get votes while doing whatever it takes to line his pockets. Ignoring floating voters (who I believe are always smaller in real number than they claim to be, because most people have a party they’d prefer to vote for if the candidate is sensible) the difficulty Ken faces is that Labour voters are starting to realise that he’s not fit to represent their party.

    Whatever policy agenda he puts forward, that will be why Ken loses. It takes a lot to fall below most peoples’ expectations of a politician, but once you do there’s really no coming back. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Paul-Barker/1546990341 Paul Barker

    I dont think Ken is a racist. I dont think woolas or powell were racists either, they were complete cynics willing to use racism to grab power.
    Labour knew what Ken was like when you chose him, you should hide your heads in shame.

  • derek

    London is quite Bonkers and all this religious hatred talk is plain wrong, I think there is something like 200,000 Jews in London and 1 million Muslims, they all desire to be represented properly and none desire to be represented from a religious favouritism perspective. London not Palestine nor is it Israel lets please keep it that way.

    Vote Ken!!!!!!!

    • GuyM

      1 million muslims in London????

      I think you’ll find it’s only about 650,000 (a little over 8%)

      The vast majority of London is still white Christian or atheist (if I remember right about 80%)

      If you look at the outer boroughs, even more so it’s mainly white christian or atheist. Hence the white flight that started in the 1960s that my parents were part of and I’ll be joining the next phase in the next few years I guess.

      Surrey is 95% white and 90% christian or aethiest, so you can see the contrast the further you move out.

      Plus London is to a certain extent ghettoised with not a lot on integration between certain groups.

      • derek

        I did google that number! and you are alert to the point I was making, although I didn’t realise you were so atoned too the Christian zionist position.Did you regard Powell as a force for good? 

        • Rufusden

           Do you mean ‘atuned’ and to? 

          • derek

            That looks better! maybe I did, I thought I used the too as in past reference to the 1960 and where we are now! anyway thanks for the help.  

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=697126564 Paul Halsall

        “Surrey is 95% white ”
        Surrey is not, of course, part of greater London.

        Also, I don’t really get the linkage of Christian and “atheists”..

    • Bill Lockhart

      “none desire to be represented from a religious favouritism perspective.”

      And you know this… how?  Just by writing that you have demonstrated that you don’t have a clue about London.

      • derek

        I may not know  too much about London but do you know about politics? isn’t silly season to suggest that an elected Mayor should represent only a certain community?

        • Bill Lockhart

          Your question would be far better directed to the Labour candidate for Mayor of London. Funny how his burning personal political causes seem to wax and wane in direct proportion to his perceived factional electoral advantage: in the 80s he eagerly courted Irish republicans who might help deliver him the then-significant London Irish vote- in fact he talked of little else. I haven’t heard a peep from him about the “Island of Ireland” since his discovery of the marvels of Islam. Maybe it’s a coincidence that the Muslim population in inner London has since become electorally significant.

  • Bill Lockhart

    The only thing Livingstone is “burning with rage” about is someone other than Livingstone being the Mayor of London.  If the Labour party is still willing to endorse this man- after his decades of treachery, dishonesty, cronyism and opportunistic sectarian appeasement- then he and the Labour party thoroughly deserve each other.

    • derek

      Bill, your not reading the script correctly, your simply trying to create a religious divide which is shockingly dangerous. Ken’s only guilt is wanting to represent London and Londoners collectively. 

      • James3010

        “Ken’s only guilt is wanting to represent London and Londoners collectively. ” All Ken wants to do and all Ken has ever wanted to do is represent Ken and Kens interests. The list of his transgressions against the Labour party are long and well known that some are willing to speak up now says more than words.

        • derek

          If you have any evidence that Ken has broken any law of duty then lets hear it? I guess you follow the faith of one commandment and that’ll be the conservative one.

          • GuyM

            Only the law of “walking the talk” maybe.

            But Ken always was a “do as I say, not as I do” sort of bloke.

          • derek

            Boris isn’t whiter than snow you know? Boris has a secondary paid position. Ken should announce that Mayor shouldn’t have a second job and hopefully the MP’s will follow.

          • derek

            Boris isn’t whiter than snow you know? Boris has a secondary paid position. Ken should announce that Mayor shouldn’t have a second job and hopefully the MP’s will follow.

          • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

            But Derek, when Ken was Mayor he remained an MP for a year. Then he had a paid position writing for the Independent.

            Ken has indeed said that the Mayor shouldn’t have a second job. Which backs up Guy’s point that Ken is a ‘do as i say not as I do kind of bloke’

          • derek

            But Jonathan Boris is no better, so Ken should adhere to the ban of a second job.

          • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

            You don’t think it makes him a hypocrite?

          • madasafish

            There are none so blind as those who do not want to see.

            All parties are full of them.

            At present it’s the Labour Party on show: not very edifying.

          • treborc

             Nice to see you backing Guy, but you do know he’s not New labour, whoops forgot your closer to the Tories now.

          • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

            You always play the man and never the ball Treborc.  I honestly think you couldn’t care less about right and wrong…

  • Daniel Speight

    There is a group inside the party who seem to turn up to put the boot in on those they see as enemies, who funny enough are other Labour people rather than the Tories. We saw it recently in the knives aimed at Ed Milibands back when they felt he was moving too far from Blair’s legacy. We saw it with the witch hunt of Paul Flynn. Of course Livingstone hasn’t helped himself with his tax avoidance, but if the choice is Ken or Boris, there can only be one answer for a Labour supporter. (Unless of course the group wants to openly  come out and say Livingstone is a racist instead of the snide leaks and briefings.)

    I wonder about this group. Are they a pro-Israel lobby or just the rump of uber-Blairites? Could it be latter financed by the former? Whatever they are quite prepared to sacrifice London to Tories in this election. Might they also be prepared to sacrifice Britain to the Tories in 2015 if they don’t get their favoured brother into Labour’s leadership.

    As for Freedland arguing against Livingstone’s suggestion that immigrant groups as a whole tend to move the right politically as they get wealthier, I think his arguments using the example of the American Jewish community and the Democrats are seriously flawed. First because the Democrats are not the equivalent of the British Labour Party as they are not a party based on the working class, and secondly because there has been a move by many leading Jews into the Republican Party as seen in Bush’s neo-cons. Britain has been no different, and the Tories have benefited from upwardly mobile Jews along with others immigrant groups. Certainly the ethnic Indian and Pakistani community is no longer a 100% Labour preserve.

    • Ruthdewynter

      Once again it’s demonstrated that Zionist & Jewish are considered to be one & the same. Why can’t you accept that Jewish people can take issue with Livingstone’s attitudes & ‘hard heart’ without it being viewed only through the prism of Israel?

      • Daniel Speight

        So Ruth the problem those complaining have is Livingstone has a ‘hard heart’ and it has nothing to do with his views on Israel and Palestine. I’m willing  to be enlightened so go ahead and tell us why it is so.

  • john Reid

    Maybe labour should have used the idea that we’re alla s bad as each other at the 2005 election “Vote Blair he lied aobut Iraq, But thatcher lied about the Belgrano sailing away from the falklands”
    Or  MAybe A 1983 Labour paster Micheal Foot admired Stalin, but thatcher admired General Pincohet, that’ would have worked

  • Liberanos

    Just because Ken publicly flings his arms about the virulently anti-semitic cleric Yusuf Qatarda, doesn’t mean Ken approves of his friend’s views. Any more than he believes his judgement that female genital mutilation is an islamic imperative, along with the  hanging of homosexuals and the beating of wives.

    It would be like saying that flinging one’s arms around  Heinrich Himmler meant that one agreed with his beliefs.

    A ridiculous notion.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZPXYLRVP4XOIGGDJWAL6HUO7U4 David

      If you flung your arms around Himmler it would be reasonable not to expect to get elected…

  • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.blott Matthew Blott

    I agree if we chose not to vote for people who cause offence there would be nobody to vote for – everyone offends someone at some particular time or other, I know I have. But Livingstone’s offence to the Jewish community goes beyond this as he gives the firm impression he holds them in contempt (I refuse to call him Ken as everyone else has the annoying habit of doing just as I refuse to call Miliband “Ed” or Johnson “Boris” – I, like everyone else, don’t know any of them).

    It’s depressing reading the comments to this piece as it appears the bar has been set so low that Livingstone can be forgiven for just about anything. One idiot has posted here that hanging around with Nazis doesn’t mean you endorse the views of Adolf Hitler but the obvious conclusion would be that any politician that did so would be rightly shunned by polite society and forced to scavange for votes from members of the lunatic fringe which is surely Livingstone’s rightful place these days.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Wigmore/61311392 Stephen Wigmore

    So you’re accept that Ken is a racist, but you think people should vote for him because he’s a Labour racist.

    Very principled of you.  Labour, the progressive party.

    • derek

      No Steph, we accept the tories are trying to play a racist card, turns out it’s just one big joker and the joke is on them (Tories)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=697126564 Paul Halsall

    Jonathan Freedland  is not NOT “a brilliant and thoughtful writer”.  He is not stupid, but is often an Israel firster.

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    you owe it to us the public to read this…cheers. OK I’m going to
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    hand themselves in,do 10days get meals, bed ,shower,plasma TV,sky
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    lads go in for 3 months see how cushy it is therefore no qualms about
    going back…they don’t care if they stab or kill someone they walk
    about in the jail wearing it as a badge…WHY? because they can who’s
    going to stop them?.Families get a life sentence their whole life
    changes forever,on anti-depressants,tablets to calm you when you have
    panic attacks, tablets to help you sleep can’t work,don’t want to talk
    to people the list goes does any one in the government know this?we’re
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    but it’s how we feel 3)Empty all prison of every luxury, yes it
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    are desperate for the changes above,maybe not all but a good few
    thousand members feel this government are letting the public,the voters
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