Ken’s polling day message to Labour activists

May 3, 2012 7:15 am

Polling day has come round with remarkable speed. Elections are perceived to be about the women and men in the media spotlight, the debates and column inches. But I am proud and humbled by the brilliant campaign our supporters have been running all over London, a campaign that’s been making all the difference.

I have never seen a London election campaign like this. We have recruited new activists to become champions of Labour’s cause. We’ve been to every borough in London, contacting twice as many voters from January to now than we did four years ago. We have had dozens of packed phone-banks. On more than one occasion we overloaded the phone system at Labour HQ. We have organised action days in all parts of London. We have directed our resources to contact voters never previously reached by Labour. We’ve had the first online volunteer community in British politics – YourKen.org – and a text channel that’s identified voters and mobilised supporters. We have covered hundreds of stations with Fare Deal leafleting – including on the wet, cold January 3rd mobilisation that pushed the Tories into a state of fear. We announced our key fares policy by text. We took the whole Shadow Cabinet to Bromley. We are preparing to run the most comprehensive get-out-the-vote operation London Labour has ever organised for a Mayoral election. It has been inspiring to be part of it. If you have helped, thank you.

Of course, we are the underdogs. The Tories were always going to benefit financially, in terms of media backing, and in terms of support from the most powerful. Though it doesn’t carry the imprint of the Tory party, London’s only daily paper has now become a true blue freesheet. It has claimed to speak for the dispossessed. You can’t do that and back the Tory party.

But our campaign is about winning with the grassroots, about real Londoners and the real changes we can make to the quality of life for the majority. Our manifesto is a Labour programme for social change – immediate steps the mayor can and should take, combined with a vision of a better London for the long-term.

In the two-party choice in this election, only Labour has talked about the experiences of real Londoners, their hopes and fears and the action that is urgently needed to improve living standards.

Now it is down to all of us who have been part of this in the months leading to polling day to gather our forces and head into the final push – the battle to get out our vote so that we can do something better for Londoners.

By spending just a few minutes at the polling station the average fare-payer can make themselves £1,000 better off. There are not many ways you can make £1,000 in less than half an hour. But that is what the average London fare-payer can do from 7am to 10pm today. Those who live in outer London can secure even bigger savings on the cost of travel.

Polling day poses the clearest possible choice – four years of Tory fare rises, or a Labour fares cut that will save the average fare-payer £1000. David Cameron’s eve-of-poll plea for voters to elect Boris Johnson shows how important it is for Labour voters to turnout and make sure the Tories don’t get away with it.

Tory recession, Tory fare rises, Tory police cuts: people are struggling. Only Labour will make protect Londoners’ interests and make people better off.

  • http://twitter.com/GuidoFawkes Guido Fawkes

    Bye Ken, don’t come back.

    • Gerald Allen

      Give us some lessons/advice on bankruptcy, or give Fianna Fail advice on how to prevent a housing and banking crisis.

    • aracataca

      How’s your bank account all right?

      • treborc1

         Mine pretty good although the low interest rates is holding me back a bit

    • FattyArbuckle

      Get your Body Mass Index checked, Guido!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001102865655 John Ruddy

    I’m sure we’ll have a Tory Troll along in a minute who will claim the author cant even name the Labour candidate in his article….

  • Ian Stewart

    Well there goes Guido Fawkes – what no swearing??? How is Ireland by the way?

    • John Dore

      Did you see the abuse directed at Louise Mensch via Twitter? Wonder who did it?

      The MP for Corby has publicised some of the abuse she had received on the social networking website, including one message that branded her a “bitch” and another that read “given half the chance, you’d strangle her”.Another Twitter user said they would “love to hit Louise Mensch in the face with a hammer”. She was also called a “slut” and likened to diarrhoea.

      • aracataca

        Whoever tweeted Mensch probably got their cue from Flashman Cameron who as we know is not averse to the personal insult, for example his horrible ageist remark to Dennis Skinner in the H of C  on Tuesday.

        • Dave Postles

            The twitter messages were horrible and the people who posted them idiots.

      • aracataca

        As with most Tories they’re OK giving out personal abuse but not so good at taking it.

        • Dave Postles

           The twitter messages were horrible and the people who posted them idiots.

        • GuyM

          Personally I think all socialists are scum and and am quite happy to have the feelings replicated back at me.

          We aren’t all in this together and there are no shared interests or values.

          Mensch should just accept you people are scum and move on. Best she spends her time fighting to drive you and your supporters further into the ground.

          • Duncan

            Guy – I agree with you.  We aren’t all in this together and we don’t have shared interests or values.  So clear off back to Conservativehome!

            Have to say I agree with Dave Postles.  I entirely disagree with Louise Mensch on the News International issue and on many other issues, but the personal abuse was disgusting.

          • GuyM

            A site for open debate Duncan, that’s LL.

            I find the Tories faux “all in it together” to be sickening really.

            We aren’t in it together and it’s time all sides stopped pretending we are or ever could be.

            Labour supporters share no common ground, interest or values with Tories and they are simply enemies to each other.

            I have more in common with a middle class American, Spaniard or Australian than I could ever have with a working class northern Labour supporter. Therefore why should I feel any solidarity with or obligation to said Labour supporter?

          • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

            “Labour supporters share no common ground, interest or values with Tories ”

            On the wireless this morning Tory MP Louise Mensch said she was happy to be described as a feminist – that immediately establishes common ground with a large section of Labour supporters.

          • James

            Labour supporters may share no common ground, interest or values with Tories but many in the current Labour shadow cabinet seem to or want to appear to.

          • GuyM

            Not in the slightest, her view of “feminist” is light years apart from someone like Harperson’s.

            You and I have nothing in common Dave, no shared values, no shared outlooks and no shared values.

            I have more in common with my staff from the US, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa than I do with you.

            I have little or no loyalty to the UK in terms of the majority of its population, I like many other work in international business with like minded people from around the globe.

            I’m far more interested in what my colleague from Washington wants out of life than I am with some working class Labour supporter in the north.

            The sooner the UK breaks up into seperate nations and we get regional government in the South the better as I am sick to death of the north of the UK and the constant whining and whinging from a load of people I don’t give a f**k about.

          • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

            “constant whining and whinging ”

            There’s no one more guilty of this than you.

          • James

            I think the aggression GuyM displays around the clock on LabourList is exacerbating his obvious instability. I don’t think by “debating” with him we’re helping him at all, in fact I think we’re making him iller. His fantasy about “fighting” a “war” against the “enemy” and “socialists” is unsettling. 

          • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

            I regard replying to him is an humanitarian act – he was on here, looking for attention, in the small hours of last night. We’re probably the only ‘friends’ he has.

            We can’t cure him but he probably finds solace or even contentment in our correspondence – that’s why he’s always coming back for more.

          • James

            I feel really sorry for “GuyM.

            No one could write the things he has written on this site and be happy within their own skin. It’s very sad really.

            I wish him well. 

          • GuyM

            Wheresas I don’t see how anyone could be a socialist and not reaise they are common rthieves.

          • GuyM

            The usual sort of response, you can’t handle the fact that a large percentage of society despises your ideology, so everyone has to have a mental problem.

            Class war exists in every day life James. If you disagree go and tell Owen Jones that his “chavs” book was completely wrong.

            I for instance don’t have any intention of hiring working class oiks at any point and I’m happy with the middle classes hoarding social capital and using it for their own.

            You correctly label it as “agression” though, I detest you simply for what you are and I extend the same feelings to your ideologocal soulmates.

            If you don’t believe that most Tories hate, literally hate, hard left socialists, I suggest you go and meet a few.

          • James

            You haven’t met me, Guy.

            You know nothing about me. You don’t know what kind of person I am, or what kind of a father I am, or what kind of job I do, or what kind of beliefs I hold, or what good or bad I have done in my life.

            All you know is that I’ve posted a comment or two on this site and, for you, that seems enough for you to call me, a complete stranger, an enemy.

            This is NOT sane behaviour, Guy.

            Surely you can see that?

          • GuyM

            You are of the left, likely a “socialist” that makes you the enemy.

          • GuyM

            Mensch’s views are rather diametrically against Harperson’s on positive discrimination and the like.

            If you think otherwise I’d suggest you find a little bit more about her.

          • AlanGiles

            Guy. If ever there was an epitome of tedium you are it. We are all “scum” are we? Including Mark Ferguson, who allows you to post your self-indulgent “thoughts” on this site without any restraingt whatsoever?

            Your constant boasting is now beyond parody: all I can say is if there were to be an Olympic event for boasting, you would win gold.

            There comes a point when we should’nt have to tolerate all this “scum” and “enemy”  tripe,  even though you may not be well (perhaps you have OCD?) it is no excuse for the numerous daily posts all on the same theme.

            You begin to make this site almost intolerable for those it was designed for.

            We all know what you think of us, no doubt you know what most of us think about you. Why not call it a day now? – it is no longer entertaining.

            There are only so many times you can re-read “Diary Of A nobody”

          • GuyM

            How many on the left tal of class war eh Alan? Dear little Owen Jones is all over the place talking it up.

            The Crowes and McCluskeys are rarely off the topic.

            The left is full of class warriors and LL resonates to many posters who share their aspirations.

            When a “social democrat” in hte mould of Blair, Purnell and the like comment, I’m happy to engage politely.

            But socialists? No thanks.

            As to whom this site is for, do you think it is for you and your like to insult, castigate and verbally abuse Blairites? If so then you can take it in return.

            I have a lot of time for Tony Blair, but people like yourself and Dave Stone with your dinosaur like aderance to socialist ideology are nothing better than the BNP to my mind.

            In terms of being a nobody, your drift into retired senility marks you up for nothing left in a life that is for all intents over. Enjoy the bus pass old man.

          • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

            Such a charming fellow…

          • Dave Postles

             ‘aderance’?

          • GuyM

            pedantic?

            typos?

            grow up hard left scum?

          • TomAshe

            No capitals?

            Poor form!

          • AlanGiles

            Thanks for proving my point, you crass idiot.

            How many more times are you going to do your “senile/ bus pass” joke?

            We have had it at least 4 times in 2 weeks.

            For somebody who makes out how superior you are, you just demonstrate the poverty of your intellect.

            You really should be spending time with a psychiatrist to help connect you to the real world, instead of the fantasy world you forever witter on about here

          • James

            Isn’t it kind of odd that a person who devotes so much of his spare time to pointlessly venting his spleen and launching tiresome tirades of abuse, hour after hour, day after day, against some nebulous multitude of law-abiding private citizens, blanket-labelled for whatever reason as being “socialist”, gets outraged when a shamelessly ambitious, self-publicising and outspoken public figure like Louise Mensch ends up receiving a host of hostile “tweets” on Twitter subsequent to nailing her colours to Rupert Murdoch’s mast?

            I am beginning to worry about you, Guy.

            You’re “not right” are you?

          • GuyM

            Better to align with Murdoch than Milliband, Unions and Socialists…..

          • James

            Not from Rupert’s viewpoint, I would imagine, if the alignment is alongside you…

          • toni

            ConHome wouldn’t accept “tories are scum” or “you people are scum”
            His comment would have been taken down, and rightly so.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZPXYLRVP4XOIGGDJWAL6HUO7U4 David

            In some fairness there is a difference: I for example do not consider myself “socialist”, but I am “Labour-minded”.

          • GuyM

            To which I’d say fair enough, social democrats I can live with, socialists never, better none of them existed.

          • TomAshe

            This sounds like a line from a Mel Brooks film.

          • Jocelyn

            I think you’ll find hardly anybody has any strong feelings for you one way or the other, Guy. Don’t flatter yourself otherwise. What a silly billy to waste so much energy and time disliking so many strangers none of whom are aware that you exist and dislike them at all. Sad really isn’t it? A bit like a Bizarro version of earthly unrequited love. 

          • GuyM

            I’ve no idea whether they know I exist or not, it’s enough to loathe socialists and be blunt in stating there are now shared interests of values with any of them.

            I’d not lift a finder to help a socialist, no matter what.

            Jocelyn, I find your ideology on the left to be repulsive and worth opposing at every turn, we aren’t all in this together and never will be.

            You are the enemy, nothing more.

          • trotters1957

            You are starting to remind me of that other socialist hater in Norway.
            I think you need to get help. seriously.

          • John Dore

            That’s the most offensive thing to say and the comment should be retracted and an apology given.

            The moderator should not delete it, it should stand for the throng to see it.

          • trotters1957

            You’re a pompous cretin. 

            Get that deleted.

          • John Dore

            Would you like a shovel? No on second thoughts you’re doing just fine.

          • trotters1957

            Not very good at this are you?

          • Bill Lockhart

            Someone suffering from cretinism has an excuse. You’re nothing but an anonymous chickenshit keyboard warrior with disgusting tastes in similes.

          • trotters1957

            Oh, Mr Dore you’re minder is here. 
            Lets look at what Guy M said: “socialists never, better none of them existed.”
            “I detest you simply for what you are.”

            Other words used liberally : scum, thieves, oiks.

            And you two think I should apologise, go fxck yourselves.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Homfray/510980099 Mike Homfray

            You can’t expect any better from this site – full of Tories. Until its properlymoderated, not worth talking seriously

          • TomAshe

            You sound like an infatuated girl sticking up for her favourite pop star, Bill.

          • GuyM

            Really?

            I’m the person who recruits from all over the world,

            who is angry at the restraints on skilled workers coming into the UK,

            who grew up in South London with as many ethnic minority friends as white

            whose closest friends over the years include a black american, an indian, a gay armenian and black caribbean

            who has 2 ex black girlfriends

            My friends, of all races, know what I feel about racism and extremist politicians whether they be scum like the idiot in Norway or UK socialist lowlife like yourself

          • trotters1957

            Yes, you’re ill.

          • James

            He is obviously very ill indeed and as such deserves our sympathy and tolerance rather than our anger and our condemnation.

          • AlanGiles

            But perhaps it is time Mark started looking at some of his remarks (“scum” being a favourite epithet). However ill/deluded/drunk “Guy” is to keep repeating this sort of stuff all day every day not only makes Guy look a laughing stock, but LL itself

          • James

            I think tat Guy is getting worse every day and I’m not enjoying watching him having some kind of David Icke-like breakdown, in public, on this blog.

            I really don’t like being a party to this at all.

          • Mike Murray

            Agreed Alan, the man wouldn’t last five minutes on Liberal Democrat Voice. We should follow the example of Mark Pack et al.

          • GuyM

            Perhaps Mark should start looking at your comments about Blair, Purnell and Byrne etc?

          • GuyM

            Silly response, personalli i think socialists aren’t right in the head.

            Perhaps a desire for socialism ought to be an auto trigger to be sectioned and treated accordingly?

          • Jocelyn

            I am no one’s enemy, Guy, and your labelling of me as your enemy doesn’t make me your enemy. If I could I would do my best to help you. I really, really would. Honestly. But I can’t. I hope you navigate your way to some kind of peace and happiness one day. 

            Good luck.

          • GuyM

            I’m labelling you as the enemy, if you class yourself as “socialist”, that makes you my enemy as you would take my income by force to give to your core vote.

            To my mind theft, people who steal from me are most certainly enemies.

          • TomAshe

            You sound like Anders Breivik.

        • Hugh

           Good to know misogyny is okay as long as it’s directed at a Tory. Awaiting your examples of Mensch – or Cameron to use your odd logic – talking about strangling people, smashing their face in with a hammer, likening them to diarrhea or calling them something comparable to a slut or whore.

          Meanwhile Rachel Reeves tweets:  “Lousie Mensch just heard you on R4. Good for you on taking on abusive tweets. Shouldn’t have to take that rubbish” – so it probably isn’t safe to’t draw any conclusions about most Labour supporters. Thankfully.

          • aracataca

            Nobody is justifying calling anybody anything. However, the fact is that Mensch has IMHO redirected attention away from the fact that she and the Tory party in general are up the backside of an organisation that hacks the phones of murdered children by referring to tweets about her. It’s a crude and tasteless political ploy. 

      • Daniel Speight

         Have you seen some of the abuse handed out to political women on Guido’s blog? I’m sure Mensch has had far worse there.

        • aracataca

          Cameron’s remark to Skinner was unashamedly ageist and unpleasant. 

          • TomAshe

            So much for showing respect to your elders.

      • TomAshe

        You are obviously a stranger to Twitter aren’t you?

  • Bill Lockhart

    “There are not many ways you can make £1000 in less than half an hour”

    Present a programme on Iranian state TV?

    • treborc1

       Sell a kidney

    • Hugh

       Register a limited company to channel your earnings through?

  • charles.ward

    Polling day has come and where are your accountant certified tax returns?  Another broken promise Ken, why should we believe anything you say.

    • Mike Murray

      As I understand it tax returns (on paper) don’t have to be presented until October. Good Luck Ken. With policies as good as these no wonder the Tory attack dogs are doing everything they can to discredit you.

      • AnotherOldBoy

        No – you are wrong.  Mr Ward is talking about Mr Livingstone’s tad returns for the last 3-4 years whcih he has promised to disclose, but somehow failed to get around to disclosing.  The information which Mr Livingstone has put into the public domain about his income and the tax he has paid was not put together by his accountant and was not complete.

  • GuyM

    Lies, lies and more lies…..

    • Lollia

      Rare praise indeed coming from the Prince of Lies himself.

      • John Dore

        Really? Its the usual facts that are rebutted by the socialists with name calling etc. The Tories are here goading lefties with hard facts that they just put down to media bias.

        • Lollia

          Crap, crap and more crap…

  • Hmmmmm

    You can fight for the dispossessed and be a Tory.  I am as are many, many others.  To suggest otherwise is offensive and shows how blinkered you are.  It is far less oxymoronic to be a Tory campaigner for the dispossessed than to be a socialist tax avoider.  I guess that makes you an oxymoron, with the stress on the last two syllables.

    • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

      “You can fight for the dispossessed and be a Tory.”

      As exampled by Tories’ social cleansing of London*? Funny how Johnson has gone quiet on this.

      I suppose what you mean is fighting to have the poor dispossessed – it all makes sense then.

      *http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/apr/24/tory-westminster-council-tenants-derby

      • GuyM

        Because making taxpayers pay for families to live on benefits in central london is so incredibly fair.

        Benefit claimants should have less choice than people who pay their way in life, all there is to it.

        • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

          So where’s the fairness in removing people from family support networks, in removing children from schools where they’ve become settled, in fracturing communities and destroying friendships?

          Doesn’t sound much like fighting for the dispossessed.

          • GuyM

            You live where you can afford, most other people in London get that, but it seems certain benefit claimants (and Labour supporters) don’t.

            Cut your cloth accordingly.

            Every place I’ve lived from the moment I started my degree has been in line with what I could afford to pay.

            I find it offensive that I shold be taxed to allow others to avoid that reality simply because they have “family support networks”.

            It’s more working class bollocks, as an undergraduate you likely move away from home and end up working post graduation away from where you grew up. But it seems that the working classes are too good for that and expect to be subsidised to stay where they want rather than where they can afford to be.

            If those of us who work have to live where we can afford then so can those on benefits, paid by those in work, do so as well

          • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

            But how does all this square with the Tories fighting for the dispossessed?

          • Dave Postles

             It’s sad that today of all days, when we hear so much of the PTSD of our service personnel – some of whom are on the streets, others incapable of continuous employment – that we are stigmatizing people.  Our friend in Scotland – who now only occasionally posts about Scottish affairs – has been resolute in his recovery, but not everyone has his fortitude. 

          • Bill Lockhart

            True, but attitudes to the problems of ex-service people are not party-based. The odious Homfray is forthright in his condemnation of serving members of the forces and his cold indifference to PTSD affecting former members. And he’s a *real* progressive. He says so himself.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Homfray/510980099 Mike Homfray

            Rubbish. PTSD is actually quite a small part of the problems – much more frequent is inability to fit back into civilian life and the very high rate of divorce which often leads to both joblessness and homelessness

            I’m quite capable of separating my belief that the armed forces should be cut, and that those joining it need to recognise the likely consequences (active service in irrelevant wars) from also being aware of the further consequences of membership of the armed forces, as detailed above. Who deserve help as much as anyone else. 

            Of course, if we had a realistic view of our international position and the armed forces to match, and didn’t enter into mistaken wars which have nothing to do with us, there might not be so many victims. But then, its down to supporters of a military venbdetta against anything Muslim like you who cause that, isn’t it, Lockhart?

          • Bill Lockhart

            Don’t blame me for Labour’s wars. I *oppose* Labour, remember? More so because many of the injuries and trauma to our people were caused by inadequate equipment, directly due to the malice and machinations of Blair and Brown.

          • GuyM

            Labour dispossess me of my taxes, the Tories are fighting to give some of them back…. that’s the sort of fight I’d vote for.

          • TomAshe

            Pugnacious little monkey aren’t you?

          • Bill Lockhart

            How many of these unfortunates are there so far in London? Ah yes, none.

          • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

            All in the fullness of time – once the elections are out of the way the cleansing will begin.

          • Bill Lockhart

            Crystal bollocks.

          • Dave Postles

            ‘Crystal bollocks.’ Opera by Borodin?

          • Bill Lockhart

            If you need to ask…

          • Dave Postles

            Ah, yes, the Hunsdiecker reaction.

          • Leslie

            No. It’s just the way I walk.

          • treborc1

             You mean the way he walks

          • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

            Then why have they already commenced the ground-work?

    • http://twitter.com/gonzozzz dave stone

      “You can fight for the dispossessed and be a Tory.”

      As exampled by Tories’ social cleansing of London*? Funny how Johnson has gone quiet on this.

      I suppose what you mean is fighting to have the poor dispossessed – it all makes sense then.

      *http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/apr/24/tory-westminster-council-tenants-derby

    • treborc1

      I’ve met many Tories who are so called Tory socialist good old Ted Heath maybe classed as one.

      But it’s difficult these days to  know what socialism means within labour and I’ve not seen to much coming from the Tories.

      Both parties are using welfare as a reason to pay back the debt it was the poorest getting to much that caused the banking crises  or at least should repay the debt.

      I think myself not being part of any party these days socialism means different things from my day with Miliband it means the squeezed middle class, with the Tories it means the squeezed middle class.

      • Gerald Allen

        Treborc1; Don’t know where you are coming from here, this is my 1st time posting on this blog so I’m feeling my way here, but your comment about Ted Heath is ludicrous,he was as far removed from socialism as Thatcher was, only he had to contend with a labour movement that could,and was prepared to stand up to him and his governments union busting and anti working class policies. Thatcher was more successful than him because the labour movement was disillusioned by the Wilson/Callaghan governments pay policies and their attempts to solve the oil crisis and the huge inflationary assaults on living standards of working people due to the said oil crisis of the mid 70s by  the Chicago School/moneterist economic theories propounded by Friedman, Hayek etc; and then  further weakened by the all out attack on public spending by Thatcher , Lawson and Howe from 1979 onwards, and the ever rising high unemployment that took immediate effect from Thatchers 1st dose of monetarism(Cameron, while not very old at that time was/is a very willing pupil) So Treborc1, while this may have been a lengthy reply I do hope you will have realised by now that it is rather foolish to have ever regarded Heath as a Liberal,  never mind a socialist.

        • treborc1

          I stick with my view

        • Daniel Speight

           We could probably look at him as the last ‘One Nation’ Tory prime minister. There was probably a belief amongst his like that some sort of social security, infrastructure state ownership and social housing was needed. Compared to what followed he was very different, not socialist but different to modern Tories.

          • treborc1

            I saw all the acts of Blair and brown and now Miliband if that’s socialism give me Ted heath.

        • Dave Postles

           Welcome aboard, Gerald Allen.  Good post.  Treborc (Robert) is a good man.

    • treborc1

      I’ve met many Tories who are so called Tory socialist good old Ted Heath maybe classed as one.

      But it’s difficult these days to  know what socialism means within labour and I’ve not seen to much coming from the Tories.

      Both parties are using welfare as a reason to pay back the debt it was the poorest getting to much that caused the banking crises  or at least should repay the debt.

      I think myself not being part of any party these days socialism means different things from my day with Miliband it means the squeezed middle class, with the Tories it means the squeezed middle class.

    • Gerald Allen

      Wow! You live and learn, I have got to 68 years of age and for the 1st time in my life I have found that the Tories fight for the dispossessed. The only dispossessed the Tories ever fought for were coal, steel owners or any other bankrupt, rundown clapped out industry that the Atlee government nationalised, or any ex-colonial landowner, whose people booted out.
      Hopefully Ken will do it in London today, but if not, I feel quite confident that Labour will get a majority in the London Assembly, if only on the basis of an article in the Guardian this morning saying that that Horses Rectum Brian Coleman looks like losing in Barnet/Camden. But there’s a feeling about the country that Cameron has shot his bolt, and that things are swinging Labours way.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Stephen-Collins/100000033820132 Stephen Collins

        Funny, bankrupt and clapped out would be an apt description for those industries when we sold them off.

      • treborc1

        Swinging to which labour Party, because it does look more and more as if New labour is alive and well, Blair boy is back

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  • aracataca

    Come on Ken you can do it?

  • toni

    If I lived in London I’d be voting for Ken.
    And as a Labour member I’d not be sitting on my thumbs nursing my grievances rather than thinking about who would be a better Mayor for poorer Londoners.

    Think of the extra bonus - utter dismay for Boris and his cheerleaders - the likes of  Guido, Gilligan and Guy. And Hodges.
    It’s a two horse race, if you’re Labour vote for Ken.

    • LordElpus

      If I lived in London . . . I might have a care.

      As it is . . .

  • Rob

    I happily voted Labour for the London Assembly, but could not vote for Ken. I could not, as a socialist, vote for someone who campaigns for Islamic Forum Europe’s Tower Hamlets representatives (and against his own party), who invites anti semitic, homophobic, sexist apologists for suicide bombings to come and share platforms with him in London, who wants to make London a “beacon for Islam” and who is engaging in same divisive sectarian and identity obsessed politics that helps no one.

    George Galloway is a disgrace, not a role model to follow

    Sorry for the rant, but still feel very pissed off that I couldn’t actually vote for a single mayoral candidate with a clear conscience.   

  • Mike Homfray

    Every single headline news item is about bloody London.

    And about one election which has as much to do with personality as politics.

    It will tell us precisely nothing about the next election either way so why the concentration on it?

    If LabourList wasn’t so London-centric it might realise how unimportant this charade is for the rest of us

    • treborc1

      I think they see London as being the life blood of the country lose London  you lose the country, that’s the way politics are these days.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Homfray/510980099 Mike Homfray

        but simply not true……

        • Bill Lockhart

          Apart from economically, culturally and politically- no, not true at all.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Homfray/510980099 Mike Homfray

            That wasn’t the question, I realise you find reading difficult, but the fact is that you can lose London and win the country. 

    • John Dore

      This is an extract from the Gilligan article today.

      More than a fifth of Labour’s members are in London, with its concentration of middle-class public-sector workers, though the capital is home to only a ninth of the country’s population.Membership figures issued in 2010, the last to be broken down by constituency, show that Labour has substantially more members in Richmond Park — where it took just five per cent of the vote at the last general election — than in the Rhondda. It has five times as many members in Hampstead as in Hartlepool. It has more members in seven London boroughs than in the whole of Wales. Its presence in the suburban, middle-English swing seats it needs to win is skimpy.The London middle-class left, of which Livingstone is the ultimate expression, has been the single most destructive force in Labour’s entire history, genetically programmed to detect the wishes of ordinary people and then do the opposite. It is substantially responsible for keeping the party out of power for the best part of the 1980s and 90s. The reason Boris Johnson won Dagenham, Redbridge, Croydon and Greenwich in 2008 was that mainstream voters thought Livingstone was interested in everybody except them.So Mike, 20% of Labour members are in London, its the big story, get over yourself and read threads about something else will you?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Homfray/510980099 Mike Homfray

        Even if we believe Gilligan, which I don’t and never have, that means 80% of Labour members aren’t in London. And certainly the majority of Labour voters aren’t in London!

        So, its not the big story except for those who live in London. The majority.

  • Holly

    Is this allowed on polling day???

    • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

      yes

  • Mike Murray

    As I understand it tax returns (on paper) don’t have to be presented until October.  Good Luck Ken. With policies as good as  these no wonder the Tory attack dogs are doing everything they can to discredit you.

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  • derek

    Hi Mark Ferguson, any up dates on the london vote? getting a few messages that the tories are worried their vote isn’t turning out.

    • aracataca

      Please God let Boris lose. Please.

    • jaime taurosangastre candelas

      Derek, the 2 pandas are locked up.  Of course they can’t turn out.

      Any update as to whether the female is pregnant?  That would add 50% to the Edinburgh tory vote immediately (or in 18 years, not sure on the suffrage for pandas).

      • derek

        Hearing of  a brisk turnout in Edinburgh, tram line a big issue?

        I overheard heard a glaswegian girl saying the pandas looked like her aunt! board backsides, always chewing on something and two black eyes.

        • jaime taurosangastre candelas

          Derek,

          I’ve only heard of the tram line thing – but it appears to be a monumental fiasco.  I don’t even know which party is in charge in Edinburgh, or who is being blamed.

          The only public transport in Edinburgh I have experience of is between Waverley and Murrayfield, and on the only occasion I ever took my car into the city, a lunatic bus driver hitting the back end of my car on a roundabout near the Army barracks.  As that was about 15 years ago, I am not going to blame you personally!  It took about 4 months for my insurance company to gain an admission from Lothian Regional Transport that their driver was at fault.  It was wet and dark, and several passengers had minor injuries from being thrown to the floor, and the driver “ran off” to a phone box to report the accident to his HQ, so the police were not very impressed when they arrived and he was not there.

          • derek

            Snp/Lib dem control at the moment. The tram line was a lab/lib initiative but been under the control of Snp /Lib and Scottish parliament from 2007, doubled in price and massively over time, it might not even be?

            Your lucky LRT  are famous for denial. You must have been around collington and redford barracks area, very tight roundabouts and notorious for the type of accident you had.Problem with bus drivers not remembering they’ve got 40 feet behind them to think about so must always take the nose at least ten feet or as far to near curbs or offside road as possible, failure to do so and the back end with encrouch on near and far sided traffic.Hope your weren’t injured.I remember the first time I took a ten ton double axis double decker down princess street, you could have pealed me off the seat by the time I got to the west end. Having said that LRT is still the only fully public transport system in Britain and all in all it work well for the public.

          • jaime taurosangastre candelas

            It was about a mile from the city bypass.  I had missed my turning coming from the south on the A1 to the city centre, so I took the next exit which I think was Colyton.  The roundabout had that completely stupid idea of a red light and zebra crossing on the exit, so there were several cars halted on the roundabout.  I was the last in line.  My car got hit by a bus that just crashed into the back of me, spun my car sideways, and itself then blocked the roundabout.  The bus driver departed within 20 seconds to “find a phone box”, and did not reappear.

          • derek

            I think I know where you were, around Colinton and Hillend area. I can’t understand why the driver just ran away? he must have been in shock and very frightened but never should have left the area or incident. The zebra crossing on exiting a roundabout are common in and around Scotland and I agree with with you there a very silly and dangerous idea. @Jaime it wasn’t me, I’m far to brave for that kind of nonsense and to be honest I’m to diligent to drive a bus into the back of another car. I guess you must have been visiting little france, exited the hospital to the left and joined the A1 at the sheriffhall roundabout, next time take a right when you exit the hospital just follw the round ahead which will take Cameron toll and into the city centre.

          • jaime taurosangastre candelas

            It was in the days before mobile phones.  I think the accident was reported to the police by the Army soldier who was on security duty at the barracks which was very close.  I do remember about 5 Army soldiers running up to help, and some of them trying to direct the traffic.  It was not really that dramatic, so I wonder why the bus driver ran off.

            I was in Edinburgh for the Calcutta Cup.  England won 18-9, but the match was much closer than the scoreline suggests.

          • derek

            Damn! hope you were shouting for the dark blues. after all blood of your blood and bone of your bone. Sounded pretty nasty to me? but if your going to do it, then hitting the doc’s car is a good choice.

          • jaime taurosangastre candelas

            I was supporting Scotland at that match, although to be honest now, I’ll support both England and Scotland when they are not playing each other, and the winner when they do…  It is an interesting point – do you support the country of your blood (in my case Scotland and Chile), or of your residence (England), or of your married family (also England).

            This to me is the “Andy Murray” question (the sporting equivalent of the West Lothian question).  Should I support him because he is Scottish, or hate him for his saying of “Anyone but England”, or just be relaxed about the fact that he will never ever win anything big in tennis, let alone Wimbledon, because he is both British and Andy Murray?

            I cannot support football though, at all.  Dozens of millionaire prima donnas dancing about and falling over, shouted at by old men in cheap nylon jackets, and all in front of a crowd of mostly racist gorillas.

          • derek

            LoL! @Jaime, I quite like cricket, steems from a time when as a scout on visiting the lake district, came across a group of English scouts playing cricket, we teased a bit and got drawn in, I took the bat, Feck the ball came towards me at lightning speed, I nearly dropped my kidneys from my rear end but I learned fast and on the second ball I took a step forward and a swing and caught the ball square in the middle of the bat and sent it for six, to the applause of the English Scouts, one move two balls friends but what I wasn’t declaring was just who much that fast ball put the shiters up me LoL! o’ and I never knew has who big a gap there was between the creases must be all of 50 ft.

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