Labour’s new Shadow Cabinet in full

October 7, 2013 4:30 pm

After a day of speculation – and months of build up – the new Shadow Cabinet has been officially confirmed. Miliband’s team have say that they are “rewarding some of our most talented women and newest MPs”, and there are certainly some eye catching promotions (and demotions) in the list. Vernon Coaker makes a big jump up from Shadow Northern Ireland Secretary to take on the Defence Portfolio, with Jim Murphy taking what most will view as a fairly clear demotion to DFID. Ivan lewis moves from DFID to replace Coaker at Northern Ireland. Perhaps the biggest winner today though is Tristram Hunt, who is now Shadow Education Secretary, with Stephen Twigg moving to the Justice team as a Shadow Minister of State. Liam Byrne is out of the Shadow Cabinet too – he’s off to be Shadow HE Minister – and is replaced, as expected, by Rachel Reeves.

The Shadow Cabinet (including attendees) is now 44% female – up from 40% – so getting closer to Miliband’s target of 50%. But perhaps just as interestingly, 31% of the Shadow Cabinet were elected in 2010.

Douglas Alexander will, as expected, take on the role of Chair of General Election Strategy and Planning. Michael Dugher will have lead responsibility for communications and day to day campaigning, whilst Jon Cruddas remains the driving force behind the manifesto.

They won’t be running the election campaign on their own though – Spencer Livermore (former Director of Strategy for Gordon Brown) will be returning to work for the party as General Election Campaign Director -with responsbility for managing the General Election campaign. he’ll be starting later this year.

And finally – Lord Falconer will be advising Miliband on planning and transition into government.

Here’s the list:

Leader of the Opposition and Leader of the Labour Party
Ed Miliband MP

Shadow Deputy Prime Minister, Party Chair and Shadow Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport
Harriet Harman MP

Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
Ed Balls MP

Shadow Foreign Secretary and Chair of General Election Strategy
Douglas Alexander MP

Shadow Home Secretary
Yvette Cooper MP

Shadow Lord Chancellor, Secretary of State for Justice and Shadow Minister for London
Sadiq Khan MP

Opposition Chief Whip
Rosie Winterton MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Health
Andy Burnham MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills

Chuka Umunna MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Work and Pensions 
Rachel Reeves MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Education 

Tristram Hunt MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Defence

Vernon Coaker MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government
Hilary Benn MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change
Caroline Flint MP

Shadow Leader of the House of Commons and Chair of the National Policy Forum
Angela Eagle MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Transport

Mary Creagh MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Northern Ireland
Ivan Lewis MP

Shadow Secretary of State for International Development
Jim Murphy MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland

Margaret Curran MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Wales 

Owen Smith MP

Shadow Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

Maria Eagle MP

Shadow Minister for the Cabinet Office
Michael Dugher MP

Shadow Minister without Portfolio and Deputy Party Chair
Jon Trickett MP

Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities
Gloria De Piero MP

Shadow Chief Secretary to the Treasury
Chris Leslie MP

Shadow Leader of the House of Lords
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon

Lords Chief Whip 
Lord Bassam of Brighton

Also attending Shadow Cabinet:

Shadow Minister for Care and Older People

Liz Kendall MP

Shadow Minister for Housing
Emma Reynolds

Shadow Attorney General
Emily Thornberry MP

Shadow Minister without Portfolio (Cabinet Office)
Lord Wood of Anfield

Coordinator of the Labour Party Policy Review
Jon Cruddas MP

  • Ceilidhann

    Honestly, I think the switch-up of Eagle with Creagh is disappointing. Creagh’s really been stellar as shadow DEFRA secretary and I was hoping to see her continue her work there, same with Eagle in transport.

    Otherwise, this all seems pretty solid to me.

    • RogerMcC

      Agree Mary Creagh seemed excellent in that role and it is difficult to see what is gained from swapping around people who are pretty much at the same level.

      • Alexwilliamz

        Maybe they requested it?

        • RogerMcC

          Possibly – but a good leader would gently point out that if they are both doing a good job they should carry on doing it.

          The mania for swapping around portfolios purely for the sake of change seems to me seriously dysfunctional and can only strengthen the power of permanent civil servants vis-a-vis ministers who are so often just here today gone tomorrow figures who know little or nothing about their brief and move on as soon as they start mastering it.

          In what other serious profession but politics would this be acceptable?

          Academics for instance share many common skills but in what reputable university would the same person teach history one year, English literature the next and physics the year after that?

          Malcolm Gladwell has hypothesized that for any serious profession, art or craft a 10,000 hour rule (and for those who find the maths challenging that’s about 5 years of doing a normal job 8 hours a day/250 days a year or perhaps 3 or 4 years of working a more intensive job) applies before you become truly expert.

          And in medicine, law, academia and any serious trade nobody would let you practise without a long apprenticeship.

          If we want to restore public trust in politicians maybe they should be forced to actually specialise in a policy area – or to be truly heretical actually have some real life experience in it.

    • Redshift1

      Exactly my thoughts!

      • Redshift1

        Although my emphasis may have been more on Maria Eagle’s good record

        • BillFrancisOConnor

          You mean like supporting the spending of £50 billion on HS2 for example?

          • Jack Tindale

            You mean – spending billions of pounds on a massive state-funded infrastructure project?

          • Redshift1

            Nope. I have some serious issues with HS2, without perhaps being quite as opposed as some. The direction of travel on rail policy I was quite pleased with and some prospect of at least partial nationalisation.

          • Alan Ji

            Well some of us are in favour of HS2. And we’ve thought if ways in which some, though not most, of the cost could be postponed for a few years

          • BillFrancisOConnor

            Spend £50 billion on this project and not on say repealing the bedroom tax or renationalising the Health Service or stopping people from dying while waiting for 5 hours in A&E, or restoring EMA, or building houses, etc, etc, etc?

          • Alan Ji

            You’re mixing up investment with current spending. The investment per year is much the same as London’s Crossrail is costing now. The first argument on favour of both is the same; if its not done, the railway will be full.

          • leslie48

            A silly comparison if I may so- when millionaires have had tax cuts, billions will soon be made by those city ‘fat cats’ and big purchasers with fingers in the Royal Mail cheap share offer, business bonuses are bigger than ever, large scale tax avoidance/ tax off-shoring by some of the richest IT/ software/ web companies, massive transfers of wealth to top end property owners/developers( helped by big tax subsidies starting this week) , and so on.., a wealthy South East with booming jobs,booming private schools, rising house wealth, busy roads jammed with 4*4′s,

            Yes of course we must stop the HS2 we’re the UK, we always stay behind our competition , we do not want the Midlands and the North prospering like the SE. The Stop HS2 is a ‘conservative local-ism’ which reflects the power of the very rich Tory Bucks not the future of UK’s economic and transport growth.

          • BillFrancisOConnor

            Have you looked at the cost benefit figures on HS2. The government’s own figures which show a benefit of £1.40 for every £1 invested presuppose that business people do no work while on the train ( Have they not heard of I pads, mobile phones and lap tops?) and some cost benefit studies for HS2 show a figure of 40p for every £1 spent or -60p – Not to mention the colossal environmental costs of constructing this line.

    • Brumanuensis

      Yes, Creagh was doing an excellent job and as I’ve written up-thread I think the same is true of Eagle.

  • RogerMcC

    Phew…..

    So much for the ‘Sky sources’ kicking Burnham out of the Shadow Cabinet.

    We lose the two most unpopular front benchers in Byrne and Twigg and do some swapping around elsewhere.

    Reeves and Hunt are hardly an ideological shift to the left but are hopefully rather less hobbled by their past fixations on workfare and academies than Byrne and Twigg.

    • BillFrancisOConnor

      Correct but not just Sky Roger – also some of the alarmist hard leftists on here. The reshuffle has answered all the critics within the Party who said they were going to rip up their cards if Byrne wasn’t moved or if Burnham was moved etc, etc, etc. Less stridency and more measured thought anyone?

      • treborc1

        My card was ripped up long ago or should I stay cut up it hard to tear up a plastic card.

        • RogerMcC

          It’s not plastic any more….

          • treborc1

            Well mine was, and now it back with Labour.

      • RogerMcC

        Yes and to good effect – although I suspect Hunt’s libelling him was the real clincher.

        What was odd about Sky was that they were still saying this quite late in the afternoon.

  • akaldev panesar

    good team to win the country back from the tories and their partners in peril

  • RogerMcC

    So if Emma Reynolds is Shadow Housing Minister what’s happened to Jack Dromey who was doing a sterling job?

    • Workingfamily

      I agree, excellent hard working and utterly committed to changing the face of housing provision. Such a slap in his face if he can’t see it through to the end. Shame

    • DanFilson

      Yes indeed, into what black hole did he disappear?

      And only recently I read that Barry Gardiner had just joined the Shadow Cabinet with responsibility for Fisheries and Sustainable Eco-something or other, but no mention of him either.

      • RogerMcC

        I suppose the rationale is his being too old (although this clearly didn’t apply to Harriet) – which given that its us wrinklies that vote disproportionately and the most experienced member of the shadow cabinet now appears to be Caroline Flint seems really retrograde.

        Indeed what is the average age of the shadow cabinet now?

  • rekrab

    So there we have it! partial chops but some still hanging around.

    Anyways, if it’s annoying the tories, it’s got to be good!

    There’s always the Sun!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy9-epdDw9E

  • BusyBeeBuzz

    Hoorah! Liam Byrne is out!

    • john p reid

      And so is Labour for 10 years

    • treborc1

      Lets hope this now bring about another look at the WCA this is the issue not ATOS, they are just the servants of the party which ever is in power.

  • Andrea Parma

    Wayne David is the PPS for Ed Miliband

    Murphy has just written “Today I’ve also spoken with Alistair Darling and I look forward
    to playing a bigger role in the Better Together campaign.”

  • http://socialwelfareunion.org/ Mr Steven Preece

    So who’s replacing Anne Maguire?

  • Daniel Speight

    Not sure why the promotion of Tristan Hunt. Is it, along with Gloria De Piero, just getting TV faces in the team?

    • http://twitter.com/waterwards dave stone

      They’ll make a most attractive couple when it comes to the photo call.

      • BillFrancisOConnor

        Nothing like a bit of sexism (re: Gloria) eh Dave?

        • http://twitter.com/waterwards dave stone

          Why sexist?

          • Chilbaldi

            apparently misogynistic and misandristic in one fell swoop.

  • http://twitter.com/waterwards dave stone

    Moving Murphy was a triumph for good sense. Someone with his enthusiasm for the discredited ideology of intervention is liability. I doubt if he could even pick up a pop gun without getting over-excited.

    • BillFrancisOConnor

      Speaking of being discredited- you said Byrne was going to keep his job (countless times) and that Andy Burnham was going to be moved from Health -along with The Sun (again on countless occasions).
      All your predictions about this reshuffle have proved to be complete twaddle.
      You’ll have to get your money back from Mystic Meg for that Crystal Ball she sold it you it’s obviously crap.

      • http://twitter.com/waterwards dave stone

        You’re some way off the mark there, Bill. You’d be closer if you’d referred to “my fears” re the reshuffle.

        Anyway, rather than continually sniping, don’t you think you should be encouraging me to rejoin the party now that Ed’s leadership is shaping up nicely? Bang to rights, we should be brothers in arms.

        • BillFrancisOConnor

          The fact is that you made wildly inaccurate predictions about this reshuffle and they have now been shown to be absolute rubbish. You did say that Burnham was going to be moved and that Byrne was going to keep his job not once but several times. You are making similar kinds of predictions about the Special Conference even before the Agenda for that Conference has been drawn up. It seems to me that it is just designed to spread despondency and negativity rather than contributing to debate.

          • http://twitter.com/waterwards dave stone

            Sorry Bill, I ‘ll be ending this exchange here as this tedious back and forth must very off-putting for visitors to this blog.

          • BillFrancisOConnor

            True to form not self-effacing enough to accept that your prediction about the reshuffle was disastrously wrong in every respect. Even Progress own up to mistakes and engage in respectful debate. Unfortunately some sections of the Far Left don’t or rather can’t.

          • RogerMcC

            If Comrade Stone was a paid journalist who got stuff spectacularly wrong we’d be more than justified sticking the boot in.

            But he’s a amateur btl commenter who is obviously going to end up talking bollocks a lot of the time because that’s what we all do down here.

            Expecting him to apologise for the expression of personal opinions (some of which people who are paid to be experts – e.g. Sky News on Burnham – were also parroting right up to the reshuffle announcement) is absurd.

          • BillFrancisOConnor

            Of course but he makes sweeping, negative (in terms of the Labour Party), alarmist and invariably unfounded predictions about what is going to happen all the time. None of these ‘predictions’ actually come to pass. His latest wheeze is his prediction about the Special Conference next year which he has made before the agenda has even been published. Besides which I haven’t asked him to apologise.

          • treborc1

            That’s why they are called predictions surely.

          • rekrab

            Not worth a response Treborc! Dave has been consistently good on this as ever and has only made suggestions rather than predictions.

            The special conference is being held to break a link with the trade unions.Ed seems to think he’s got a better solution? but the fact is Ed has ignited this conference, so again Dave is correct.

          • BillFrancisOConnor

            ‘Dave has been consistently good on this’

            Don’t you mean Dave has been consistently ‘wrong’ on this?

          • treborc1

            Predictions you make a guess, I know it’s hard one…

            Now the Unions I think the people at the top will be looking at losing jobs within Labour as adviser or on committees and may be a seat in the house of Lords the people at the bottom have not really been that much bothered, it’s a game we have seen so many times for years,Tories have a go at labour for being under the thumb of the UNions, the Labour leadership are not good enough to fight back, so they have a god at making out the eight to ten million they get from the Unions are meaningless, so if Labour does not need it I’m fine with that.

            If labour wants to go it alone fair enough go for it, but the talk in my Area is that the political levy labour hopes will now come to them in full, may end. Not forgetting for the last two years labour has been having meetings with all Unions including those that left labour to come back under the labour banner.
            The Min wage Labour brought in was supposed to bring a million people above the poverty line what it has done is drag down millions into this pay trap, companies now think the min wage is a starting point and they just use it.

            In the end Labour has a choice it can work with Unions and be proud of it or go it alone and see how far it will get.

          • rekrab

            I think it’s the talk in most areas, there isn’t any big rush from trade union members to become single members of the party.

            It’s worthwhile remembering that Andy B, made clear his intentions to remain shadow NHS secretary with his letter of legal intentions against Hunt’s serious allegation.

            Where Ed’s at is puzzling? what he expects will take place if he breaks the link seem to be full of bullet holes as pointed out by yourself. there isn’t a will be change the link and make it work.

            You’ve hit the nail on the head with the starting point for wages being tied to the under valued minimum wage.

            Ed, comes across all zen but his real problem is he isn’t believable, he seem somewhat a flip/flopper and unsure, the recent reshuffle will confirm this in the days to come.

          • Alan Ji

            “break a link ”
            Err, no. Its to create a much better link than the ossified one we’ve inherited from 107 years ago.
            I guess that in the average constituency there are about 4,600 people contributing the their Union’s political find. Wouldn’t it be good for them, for their Unions and for the Labour Party if CLPs knew who they were?

          • rekrab

            Alan, I know you want to believe it’s for a better cause but the issue will be frought with complications. If passed by special conference all political fees will be suspended, all trade union members will be asked if they want to become members of the labour party both the GMB and Unite have said less than 10% of their members are likely to follow through and become individual members, secondly if fees are suspended, abolished, union members will expect a refund on levy fees. Thirdly any full members of the party and trade union joint card won’t have the confidence to go forward with any future industrial action because it’s unlikely that the labour party leader will sanction any strike action, for example, (late but in earnest) if postal workers strike because their company is being privatised, will the entire labour party, leader and all support the strike action and consider secondary picketing the lines?

          • treborc1

            Each time I go to a Union meeting and I went last month you have application forms for labour on a table, with other information two years ago the Union did a big push to get people into the Labour party.

            Then at one meeting a discussion about labour was taking place when a question was how many people voted Labour out of about twenty only five people voted labour, four voted plaid the biggest number was do not vote.

            We were asked as shop stewards to go back and find out from the GMB member if people actually voted and it did not come as much of a shock most people did not vote at all.

            The answer given was , they are all the same aren’t they.

            Out of nearly 500 workers in my old factory only 110 were paid up GMB Union members , that is a bigger worry then if they were labour party members

          • rekrab

            Your correct again Terborc1, when we hear of places like Grangemouth refinery being told their terms and condition need to be cut or else the factory will close.

            Lets not forget also that this government is asking employees to sell their terms and condition of employment, given the employer the full deck of cards to implement more zero hour contracts.

            I’ve always favoured closed shops and never split from the thought that in many ways it’s the trade union mutual employment link that keeps the food on my dinner table not some confused political party.

          • Alan Ji

            “We were asked as shop stewards to go back and find out from the GMB member if people actually voted”
            S o you’ve never done that before and you suffer from an illusion that the Trade Union movement is to the left of the major left-of-centre political party?
            The most left-wing think TUs ever did was take part in forming a political party. That took years of work, because so many were OK with the Liberals at a time when only 5% had a vote. All the people who did that are long gone.

          • Alan Ji

            Over the top, again.

            None of that is in Ray Collins report, passed by Labour’s Conference.

            What GMB and Unite need to do is more serous campaigning about the link with their members. There’s plenty of time and nobody said the members had to be asked only once.

            What does “full members of the party and trade union joint card” mean? And what do you think it means?

          • rekrab

            Jeez! what do you think it means? it’s pretty clear to me, that if the reforms fail to attract the majority of trade union members, those suspected sums of 200,000th or so signed up individual members are a conflict of collective union agreement default because their political leader*labour party) will ask them to avoid certain trade union disputes.

          • treborc1

            Not unless they ask me first, you know the data protection act and all.If you think back Labour did demand that the Unions hand over details of the people who paid the levy, but the Union did ask us members and I think most of us refused, so it was dropped.

          • Alan Ji

            Over the top, again.
            “the levy” is both a routinist and a hard-left myth. Individual members pay, or don’t pay, into the political find of their trade union. The union, as an organisation, pays some of that money in affiliation fees and other payments to the Labour Party. Labour demanded nothing; a different relationship was floated in the course of the Refounding Labour discussions.
            Which Union are you a member of that asked members about handing over information?

        • Redshift1

          Indeed he should. Please rejoin brother!

    • RogerMcC

      Not a fan of Murphy myself.

      But despite having a public persona which reminds one strongly of Bevan’s description of Gaitskell as a dessicated calculating machine the one thing he showed real passion for was the welfare of our servicemen and women and of their families and he deserves real credit for that.

      And International Development is not a booby prize.

  • Amber_Star

    I don’t see Development as a demotion for Jim Murphy; I’m hoping that appointing a high profile shadow secretary will raise the profile of Development. It will also be good to have Jim Murphy more involved in United with Labour &/or Better Together in the run up to the 2014 referendum.

    • rekrab

      Not sure about that Amber, I think Jim said he phoned Alistair and the reply went something like, come on board Jim, your just as unpopular as the rest of the team, by the by! you ain’t going to cite any military action against the yes campaign are you?

      • http://twitter.com/waterwards dave stone

        Lol. A bit of the old intervention north of the border – as a true to form continuation of policy by other means… ?!

        Still, if Murphy applies himself he could learn a lot from the International Development brief. Ed has done him a favour.

        • rekrab

          Behind all little innuendos there’s a story! Westminster is considering seizing Faslane in the event of a yes Independence vote.

          Only a few short weeks back Slim Jim was decrying the tories for building two of the biggest aircraft carriers in the world that wont be able to have planes on them? he now wants to go hand in hand to the Scottish peoples homes with the tories and tell them that those two aircraft-carriers were a wonderful idea from the tories and new labour governments? Jim could be a larger disappointment North?

          But as you’ve said lets see if a sense of humility embraces Jim, as development secretary doing good work rather than the bullets and bombs.

          • http://twitter.com/waterwards dave stone

            Faslane certainly could be a bit of a chestnut. Perhaps, now that Murphy has been demoted, fisticuffs will replicate the methods deployed on the Russia/China border during the 60s – when the massed ranks of the Chinese Peoples Army would advance towards the Russians, then stop abruptly and, en masse, stick their tongues out at the Russians.

            Also, at times of heightened tension, they repeated the same maneuver but instead of sticking tongues out, did an about turn and dropped their trousers. Wanting to keep the pride of the Motherland intact the Russian retaliation was instant – they hoisted posters of Mao Tse Tung to receive the insult.

            It would go down very well on youtube.

          • rekrab

            LoL, Dave the nats have a special name for Murphy up here (Skeletor) I’d imagine their delighted with the new bones on the ground and will welcome him with a traditional salute. Kilt up!!!!! double taggars.

          • Alan Ji

            That reminds me of the famous tale of the Czech, or was it Slovak, dissident who was granted three wishes in prison.

            1) She wished for the Peoples Liberation Army of China to invade Czechoslovakia; and then go home.
            2) She wished for the Peoples Liberation Army of China to invade Czechoslovakia; and then go home.
            3) She wished for the Peoples Liberation Army of China to invade Czechoslovakia; and then go home.
            I don’t understand you, said the genie, your three wishes are all the same.
            You don’t understand the real world, dear genie, said the dissident. If my wishes come true, the Chinese army will have marched the whole length of the Soviet Union six times.

          • John Ruddy

            I thought that story had been discredited? “Westminster” was considering nothing of the sort – it was just some journalists wet dream.

          • RogerMcC

            This talk of ‘seizing’ Faslane is hysterical propaganda.

            There is in fact a clear precedent for an independence process in the creation of the Irish Free State as part of which Britain retained naval bases at Berehaven, Queenstown and Lough Swilly (and only gave them up just before WW2 – at the probable cost of thousands of seamen’s lives given that convoy escorts had to be operated from mainland ports hundreds of miles further from the killing grounds of the North Atlantic).

            As the UK government would hold all the cards they’d make the same demands to Salmond as they did to Collins and De Valera – and if they were sensible compromise on a lease period which would give the UK 20 years or whatever to establish a new naval base while also letting the Scots gradually accommodate themselves to the loss of jobs.

      • Amber_Star

        LOL :-)

  • Brumanuensis

    Most of the changes are good – especially Rachel Reeves replacing Liam Byrne. Disappointed at Maria Eagle’s move from the Transport brief; I thought she was doing well.

  • johnmcardle

    No shadow minister for disabled people named there as a replacement for Anne Maguire. Just like last year. Seems Labour view it as a ‘junior’ appointment to be announced on day two – tomorrow. We disabled folk are just SUCH a priority, aren’t we?

    Black Triangle Campaign

    • treborc1

      I in all honesty do not think having a Minister for the disabled is really needed, and I hope now Byrne has gone we will see more about the WCA being sorted out.

    • John Ruddy

      I presume that post will be announced alongside all the other junior positions.

  • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.blott Matthew Blott

    When I heard the name Del Piero I could only think of the former Juve player, just seen her now. Wow, she’s a fox :-)

    • rekrab

      Don’t mean Vixen then? Ooops!

      • Amber_Star

        Oh FFS +1

        • jaime taurosangastre candelas

          + 1 to you for being right, but come on, it is only human nature.

          My daughter is now the sort of teenager whose bedroom I dare not enter (and it seems like only a short few years ago that she wanted me to sit on her bed as she fell asleep after a night terror), but the last time she left the door open there was a very crude poster of some Hollywood actor with a bare chest, so this does “cut” both ways!

    • Amber_Star

      Oh FFS.

      • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.blott Matthew Blott

        Yes, sorry. I do of course realise woman should be promoted on their ability and nothing else and the fact that Ms Del Piero may or may not be seen as attractive should have no bearing on how we perceive her abilities as a shadow cabinet minister :-)

    • RogerMcC

      I suppose she is – but this is the sort of opinion properly socialised adults keep to themselves and don’t generally feel the need to share…..

      • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.blott Matthew Blott

        I guess I am not properly socialised, unlike yourself of course :-)

    • Alan Ji

      Her family name is De Peiro, not Del Piero. Italian, not Spanish. She hails from Bradford and talks just like my cousin in Queensbury.

      • http://www.facebook.com/matthew.blott Matthew Blott

        Yes, my bad. Sorry.

  • Daniel Speight

    Just maybe this would be a good time for Jim Murphy to quit politics and go out and get a real for the first time in his life.

    Is he too old to join the army?

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