Trident is draining money away from other areas of government expenditure

July 11, 2012 10:25 am
In an article on LabourList, the Shadow Defence Minister Kevan Jones has adopted the mantra of ‘too far and too fast’ in relation to recently announced cuts to the Army.  He concluded his attack on government spending decisions by stating “recent decisions made by the Government will shape our ability to meet future strategic threats for years and years to come. But they have been made on the basis of making short-term savings over the next 12 to 18 months”.
Yet not all recent decisions within the Ministry of Defence have been made with on the basis of short-term savings.  Indeed, another Shadow Defence Minister wrote a piece on LabourList just a few weeks earlier, endorsing the government’s confirmation of £1 billion expenditure on Trident Replacement. And we already know that the Coalition plans to spend £4 billion on Trident replacement design before the decision on whether or not to replace it is taken in 2016 – and while Lib Dems research alternatives to a like-for-like replacement.
The two articles stand alone but looked at together there is a lack of joined up thinking in the defence team. The Treasury has decided the procurement costs of Trident replacement must come out of the Ministry of Defence’s budget, yet Trident was specifically excluded from the Strategic Defence and Security Review (SDSR), which directly led to the recently announced defence cuts.
Kevan Jones linked to Labour MP Dan Jarvis’s piece in The Guardian last week where he wrote “Does any sensible, independent military thinker believe this decision is based upon strategy? No, the only strategy is to pay down the deficit at all costs.”  Not quite at all costs though; the government is spending billions on Trident and its replacement despite huge cuts elsewhere in government including in the Ministry of Defence.
So what is Labour’s policy?  Well, at the most recent meeting of the National Policy Forum the differences of opinion in the party on Trident were acknowledged and there are signs of a more inclusive discussion.
Meanwhile Ed Balls has stated that the next Labour Government will have difficult spending choices to make and he has expressed the view that it cannot or will not reverse all of the cuts.  In that context, endorsing billions more for Trident while blogging the following week that the Government’s defence policy is only focused on short term cuts makes Labour’s defence team incoherent, not to mention inconsistent with Ed Ball’s cautious approach to public expenditure under a future Labour government.
What would be coherent is to implement the position of Ed Miliband during Labour’s leadership election – that Labour “should look at the totality of our conventional and nuclear capabilities, considering both our defence needs and what our priorities are in the changing economic climate.”  Labour’s defence team has failed to look at conventional and nuclear capabilities in totality.  They should – and correctly conclude that Trident is draining money away from other areas of government expenditure, whether in the Ministry of Defence or other vital public services.
  • http://twitter.com/RobSpiller1 Rob Spiller

    Serious question, not making a point.
    Why do we still need nuclear weapons ? Did we really ever need them?
    Can replacing, rather than scrapping Trident be justified at all?

    • rwendland

       And if we need them, why don’t Brazil, Germany and Japan – who have larger GDPs than the UK – also need nuclear weapons?

      • KonradBaxter

        No one would have let Germany develop nuclear weapons after WW2.

        Ditto for Japan and add their experience of them.

        Both preferred to use economic might to make their positions known internationally.

        Brazil is investing in nuclear powered submarines, actual weapons may follow in the future but there are regional treaties in place to stop this which is great. Plus remember that Brazil has been rather an irrelevance until very recently.

        Yes, we certainly needed them for a while. Now? Probably but any further reduction should be in line with / used to pressure other states to reduce their stockpiles and not unilateral.  Any UK loss of nuclear weaponry – combined with the dreadfull cutting of the conventional forces – will further reduce the UK’s position.

        Are we ready to be a European only power, locked out of European power  by the Franco-German death grip?

        • rwendland

          Currently the slow collapse of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty is a significant risk. The critics have a point that following the end of the Cold War, none of the five nuclear weapons states disarmed pursuant to Article VI – it’s a treaty that in-practice permanently splits the world into nuclear haves and have-not states.

          Given we are in such a financial mess, and have no obvious nuclear enemy, it would be a good time to set an example of nuclear disarmament and become like most of the world.  Or at least replace with a significantly reduced system, eg not a ballistic missile system, or anchored launch vessels.

  • 1earthmother2

    At the very least the full costs of Trident should be made public and subject to scrutiny.Currently,the information is coming out drip by drip,the odd billion or so there,another billion there.Also,defence procurement does not have a history of getting the true cost of anything correct and often contracts are well under-estimated.
    Before anyother analysis the public ought to know how much everyone has to pay for it.There has already been enough mortgaging of the future with PFI.Do we really want to do the same with Trident?Is it affordable?

  • Ann.

    You can help stop Trident by asking your MP to sign EDM 96: Trident.

    http://act.cnduk.org/lobby/63

    Please act today. All you need is your postcode.

    Thank you.

  • franwhi

    Yes the current position is quite incoherent and extortionately costly. When you look at the costs you wonder why both the Condems and Labour want to continue with this vanity project at any time but particularly at this time. Why don’t we get a referendum on that ?

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