No “special relationship” with Cameron, says Blair spokesman

May 30, 2012 7:01 pm

There was some low level consternation this morning after the Daily Mail reported a “special relationship” between Blair and Cameron. The report seemed designed to disconcert Labour supporters – and it seemed to have the desired effect.

Except it seems that the truth isn’t exactly how the Mail presented it. Speaking to LabourList this afternoon, a Blair spokesman said:

“Let’s be clear, there is no ‘special relationship’ on either part. As we’ve said before, Tony Blair occasionally talks to the PM as he does with a number of other world leaders. This is as far as it goes. This story is overblown.”

I can’t help but wonder why this story appeared today. Could it possibly be anything to do with Blair’s evidence to the Leveson Enquiry, in which he talked of the Mail Group’s “personal vendetta” egainst him?

The timing seems convenient to say the least…

  • John Dore

    I don’t get it, so what if he does meet Shameron and so what if the story appears at the same time as Blair’s at the inquiry. Am I missing something?

    • Brumanuensis

      The implication being that the Mail is mischief-making in revenge for Blair’s comments at Leveson.

      • John Dore

        Thanks.

  • AlanGiles

    Perhaps Blair likes to remind Cameron that he is still alive and still hasn’t got his title yet, but I should think Blair is happier talking to Cameron  than he would be members of the party he once pretended to represent. 

    ——–

    All my links today were of musicians who worked on record with Charlie Parker in the mid to late 40s.

    • John Dore

      More crap from Alan Giles.

      • AlanGiles

        You are too modest, “Mr. Dore” you manage to produce quite enough of it yourself on here: you know – all the “feckless” tripe. The man who admits to having four employees at this one time who he is unable to control.

        Blair does seem to have more in common with Tories, (as does your goodself) whether you like to admit it or not. After all he told Levenson he had “never had any intention” of turning back Thatcherism. I know you have the attention span of a goldfish, but even you should remember that since he said it only this week.

        Interesting that you have nothing to contribute to the argument except this one playground taunt, I can only suggest you grow up or shut up.

        * Herbie Mann (1930 –  2003)

      • AlanGiles

        You are too modest, “Mr. Dore” you manage to produce quite enough of it yourself on here: you know – all the “feckless” tripe. The man who admits to having four employees at this one time who he is unable to control.

        Blair does seem to have more in common with Tories, (as does your goodself) whether you like to admit it or not. After all he told Levenson he had “never had any intention” of turning back Thatcherism. I know you have the attention span of a goldfish, but even you should remember that since he said it only this week.

        Interesting that you have nothing to contribute to the argument except this one playground taunt, I can only suggest you grow up or shut up.

        * Herbie Mann (1930 –  2003)

    • http://twitter.com/mistyblulabour dave stone

      ” Blair is happier talking to Cameron”

      They do have much in common: both are yesterday’s men, so perhaps you’re right.

  • robertcp

    The story does not disconcert me at all.  Cameron and Blair should be in the same party.  Blairites, Cameroons and Orange Book Lib Dems basically agree on most issues.  

    • John Dore

      I am convinced that if we hadn’t lost there wouldn’t have been much difference. Cameron isn’t following a particularly tory agenda and the Ed’s would have to follow a different path to what they are saying now. I think this is what you get when you get Oxbridge educated managerial types running the country. Dividing lines are getting muddied.

      We should be shunning this politics as a career thing.

      • AlanGiles

        But with all due respect, it is your sort who encourages it: any of us on LL or in the party who dares to suggest that the Thatcher/Blair/Coaltion way of doing things has been shown to have been a failure, and alternative methods might be considered are branded by you and your sort as “hard-left” or “trots” or “left wing lunatics” – you and the risible “Purple Booker” and the frankly at times incoherent ramblings of John Reid, show an antipathy to traditional Labour values even more disparaging than your attitude to the Tories. It might be easier to follow the herd, but some of us like to thiunk for ourselves, and we don’t sign up to the “us too”  agenda of the top of the party who are terrified of saying anything original or thought provoking because some old chap in Tunbridge Wells might choke on his cornflakes.

        Instead of telling me that I write “crap” (and others on here far more knowledgable than myself)  why not look at some of the nonsense written as articles on LL by the likes of Chris Williamson last Sunday, which was disingenuousness personified, the right wing rants of Rob Marchant and Paul “Chief of Police” Richards, or Liam Byrne, or Caroline Flint – the hack journalism of the career politician.

        If I write “crap” – and who am I to judge? (as DeGaulle once said “how little we know of ourselves”), at least it is based on my own knowledge, experience and attitude, I am not writing stuff to order by the party machine. I cannot believe Williamson ‘s article (which he didn’t have the decency to respond to when many of us pointed out he was being less than honest), was meant to enlighten, merely to disemble,  and unlike the careerists, people like the Dave’s, Derek, Daniel,  Mike, Treborc etc (sorry to who I have missed out), are writing the truth as we see it, not as we are PAID to see it.

        * Boby Jaspar (1926-1963)

        • John Dore

          You’re such an irritating bore.

          • AlanGiles

            Nothing more substantive to say, “Mr. Dore”?

            I find your pretence of being a Labour supporter boring, because I suspect you are not who or what you claim to be.

            “John Doe” without the “r”, is an American non-de-plume. Look it up.

            Perhaps instead of naming a musician I should offer a prize for what the “R” might stand for: 

            P.S. As I used to tell “Guy” it is not compuilsory to read what I write

          • treborc1

            ditto, would be the reply about being a bore, me think Guy you will return to your normal self

          • AlanGiles

            Yes “Guy M” fingerprints are all over his recent daubings, the ageism, the over-use of the word “cr*p”.

            I wonder who he will reivent himself as next?

        • chrisfowler08

           What is hard left?-stop using right wing cliches.
          What are Left wing lunatics?
          Have you been reading the sun/daily mail too much.

          • AlanGiles

            A word of advice Chris, funny one-liners can get overdone, you have more than overdone it, you are beginning to sound like a cheap stand-up comedian,  and these “faux confused” posts of yours, like the one above, makes it appear you are a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic.

          • chrisfowler08

             I do do like a picnic.

          • chrisfowler08

            Dear  Alan
            Yes I agree and I bow to your superior knowledge but I did have a chuckle though.
            I wish you well.

          • treborc1

            psychiatrist  they are free mate 

          • chrisfowler08

             Nothing is free mate it all has to be paid for.

  • Daniel Speight

    I can’t help but wonder why this story appeared today.

    Could just be coincidence and the story is true.

    After all if you find after you leave office that your friendship with Rupert Murdoch goes up to whole new level and he’s not such a right-wing enemy of the people, then why shouldn’t you find yourself in a new relationship with a young PM who obviously hero-worships you?

  • Bill Lockhart

    Mark Ferguson’s instant acceptance of  Blair’s denial is touching and at the same time utterly baffling in its wilful naivete. Have the last 15 years taught you nothing at all?

  • Dave Postles

    Like a moth to a light – so depressing.

  • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

    This post was always going to get people frothing with masturbatory excitement at yet another opportunity to bash our former leader. 

    It seems to me eminently sensible that two men who have both held the same difficult job should talk from time to time.  It is also eminently sensible for Miliband and Blair to talk – as they do.

    The comments section of Labour List is on a road to becoming a hate group where every miserable idealogue on the left comes to moan and slag people off.  Enjoy it by all means, but it’s ridiculous.

    • treborc1

       You could always start your own blog lets see why I love Blair, I suspect Blair address book is getting out dated most of his mates have been over thrown or  killed.

    • AlanGiles

      Jon, really: masturbation at ten in the morning! Naughty boy. At this time of the day it is all I can do to raise a smile. Be careful though – your keyboard will come to a sticky end if it is what you are up to :-)

      the fact is, as I mentioned to “Mr Dore” has always been more comfortable with the Conservatives than he is with us (or rather the “us” in Labour that do not subscribe to his war-mongering and fawning to the rich and powerful). The fact that his first guest in Downing Street back in 1997 was Mrs Thatcher rather than Jim Callaghan tells you rather a lot.

      Did you read Nick Cohen’s Observer article about the Princess Tony on May 27th – and – more to the point – the comments of ordinary readers underneath it?. I think Blair’s ego would take quite a battering if he was to admit to what the public as a whole think of the old fraud.

      * Roland Kirk (1935-1977)

      • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

        Hi Alan, of course I understand why people get excited about it all. I get excited about Blair because of the following:

        1. Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.

        2. Low mortgage rates.

        3. Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.

        4. Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.

        5. Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.

        6. Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.

        7. Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.

        8. Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.

        9. Employment is at its highest level ever.

        10. Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.

        11. 85,000 more nurses.

        12. 32,000 more doctors.

        13. Brought back matrons to hospital wards.

        14. Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.

        15. Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.

        16. Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.

        17. NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.

        18. Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.

        19. Restored city-wide government to London.

        20. Record number of students in higher education.

        21. Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.

        22. Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.

        23. Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

        24. £200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.

        25. On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.

        26. Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.

        27. Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.

        28. All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.

        29. A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.

        30. 600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.

        31. Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.

        32. Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.

        33. Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.

        34. Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.

        35. Banned fox hunting.

        36. Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.

        37. Free TV licences for over-75s.

        38. Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.

        39. Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.

        40. Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.

        41. New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.

        42. Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.

        43. Free eye test for over 60s.

        44. More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.

        45. Free entry to national museums and galleries.

        46. Overseas aid budget more than doubled.

        47. Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.

        48. Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.

        49. Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.

        50. Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

        Amazing how those on the left couldn’t care less about all these fantastic achievements.

        • http://twitter.com/mistyblulabour dave stone

          I was with you until the last sentence, unfortunately you resorted to a crass and unhelpful generalisation.

          • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

            Dave, you’re right.  I take that back.

          • http://twitter.com/mistyblulabour dave stone

            Tip of the hat to you, mate.

          • chrisfowler08

             Whose hat and what tip are you talking about.

          • chrisfowler08

             Don’t you mean left-Why take it back, also don’t you mean get back by the Beatles.

          • chrisfowler08

             Why unfortunately?

        • AlanGiles

          Jon: Nobody would deny item 3 on your list, but I think some of the other claims would be open to question in particular:

          6 & 7: I am not saying I do, as I have no schoolchildren, but many people would dispute this

          Number 1 is more due to luck than Blair (and from 2000 onward think of all the money thrown down the proverbial on his wars)

          9) Certainly an increase in low paid part time short contract employment, but the halcyon days of employment is back in gthe 60s.

          13) Matrons: more Barbara Windsor than Hattie Jacques these days

          17) have you ever dealt with NHS Direct?. I have on behalf of somebody else. A rather useless body, either for the worried well or another way of calling an ambulance

          19) Another layer of government at great expense and dubious value (hence my antipathy towards the Mayorality

          20) debateable value in this IMO – a three year course in the performing arts or golf course management?

          47) More to do with advances in medical research and practice, and regretfully we still have one of the poorest survival rates for certain forms of cancer.

          And of course, Blair himself regrets 37! (I don’t BTW)

          But: you cannot overlook or forget the cronyism, the lies, the personal greed, the frequent attempts to face in both directions at once, the sheer hamminess, the cant, the hypocrisy, and, most especially the Iraq war, in which he was knowingly aided and abetted by p!ss artist and porn scribbler Campbell. The embarrassing homoerotic relationship with George Bush, and, of course, the hijacking of the party, so that now we have unprincipled young MPs who put personal advancement and enrichment over public service, and in many cases, indistinquishable from the Conservatives.

          Blair did much more harm than good, and quite frankly I suspect it was his own relaxed attitude to truth and integrity, and his pathological love of money  that led to the shame of the expenses scandal. It is very noticeable that the most ardent Blairites were the biggest expenses thieves. 

          If Blair is rehabilitated by Ed into domestic politics, given his disgusting record, I will stop voting for the party, because we should now be turning our backs on the relic. He is a very good explanation of why the public hold politicians in such low esteem. He is the epitome of sleaze, vulgarity and humbuggery.

          * Hubert Laws (1939 –     )

          • treborc1

            NHS direct….

            Hello my wife is in a serious condition.

            What is the matter.

            Shallow breathing, her eyes are open and her pupils are not responding to light.

            Put her in recovery.

            I have.

            How do you know how to do this.

            I was trained

            where .

            Who the fecking hell cares.

            Send for her GP.

            Phone GP, who says phone ambulance, phone ambulance who says phone NHS direct.

            NHS direct hello what can we do.

            To cut it short it took at hour and half  to get the NHS direct to phone for an ambulance, my wife had  meningitis and nearly died she was in a coma for seven days.

            My MP took the matter up with the NHS and a review of the NHS direct was undertaken, it was decided that any 999 call to the Ambulance service had to have an ambulance response and should not be referred to the NHS direct

            The results of the  wait for an hour and twenty minutes my wife has a serious hearing problem 

          • chrisfowler08

            You are getting on the right track here. But how can Blair be rehabilitated by Ed Balls up, is what I want to know.
            Why do you want a psycopath in your mists?
            You are also right about the public regarding politicians held in low esteem and only the epitome of sleaze, vulgarity, hummbuggery and many others.
            Enlighten me whats humbuggery.

        • John Dore

          Despite Iraq, he is one of the most brilliant politicians of all time.

          • AlanGiles

            Yes of course he is. And Iraq – well only several thousand people were killed unnecessarily.

            Nurse – the screens!

          • chrisfowler08

            don’t you mean Hundreds of thousands of people.
            Are you mad as well!

          • chrisfowler08

             Are you mad!

          • John Dore

            I’ll put it in context for you; power only means something if you can wield it. He got elected 3 times and exercised greater power than anyone on this forum will know. He made one of  the largest mistakes since Hitler walked into Poland with Irag. Despite the mistake, he is still in employment, has the ear of world leaders and has influence. I call that brilliance.

            How does that compare to say someone like Alan Giles?

          • AlanGiles

            Well, Dore, unlike Blair, I was never interviewed by the police in connection with a criminal investigation. That is one difference. AS for employment (such as it is) he should retire. HE is of nop use to anyone.

            I know you are a joke, but the other day you wrote:

            “love Purnell”

            If you were not joking on that occassion, why not pluck up courage and tell him so?. You never know, if you are into leather and earrings, you might be just his type, duckie.

        • JoeDM

           Most of these are in the “riding the wave of history” category.

          • chrisfowler08

             What do you mean ‘riding the wave of history’-what is he on!

        • treborc1

           And of course you forgot the best.

          The biggest financial banking housing crash in living history.

          Not bad for a bloke

          • AlanGiles

            To be fair I wouldn’t blame that on Blair – there was a global financial crisis, and that occurred the year after Blair stopped being P.M.

            But Blair has cost us so much in so many ways – the latest being that Britain will have to pay to keep that filthy old despot Charles Taylor in a British prison for the rest of his life, or for 50 years whichever is the longer, in yet another little “deal” he cooked up.

            Unless – of course – he will offer to pay out of his own pocket? – he could perhaps start a Gadaffi Memorial Fund?

          • chrisfowler08

             PM, I thought he was president Blair

          • JoeDM

             That’s firmly in Gordon Brown’s hands.

          • treborc1

            Lets be honest Brown  put in place most of the above, he was the power man  within New labour. Blair was the figure head.  This is the reason Blair could never sack  Brown and the reason the bloke believed he should be leader. Hence you have both sitting down discussing the time table for brown to take over, when that did not come about Brown and his mates got to work.

            I suspect 90% of what Roberts has written was down to Brown, problem for brown he did not have the acumen to lead from the front he was like an ox in the china shop.

            One look at spending for the wars and it came down to  Brown and it was brown as chancellor who was blamed for the lack of equipment

          • chrisfowler08

             Does he have any hands?

          • chrisfowler08

             Don’t you mean a joke.

        • Dave Postles

          What lazy bastards the rest of the Cabinet must have been.  Still, as far as I am aware they are not now consultants and advisers for Khazakstan and Kuwait.

          • chrisfowler08

             Whose a lazy barrrrstaard then?

          • John Dore

            The feckless are lazy. Can’t stand ‘em. Me ol’ mum told me to work hard and I never stopped.

            I’ll say it again and again I can’t stand the feckless and something needs to be done about the feckless who are a drain on us all. Why should we all have to support the bone idle?

            I’m sure you agree with me those who are lazy shouldn’t be allowed to be.

          • AlanGiles

            “The feckless are lazy”….”I can’t stand the feckless and something needs to be done about the feckless ”

            This is either “Guy” under his next imaginary persona, or a parrot with scatalogical issues

        • chrisfowler08

           You forgot the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer.

  • JoeDM

    Cameron has shown himself to be the “heir to Blair” as many suggested he would.

    Cameron is far closer to the Labour right-wing than he is to traditional Tories.

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