Why a Service ethos matters

July 10, 2012 5:01 pm

By Jim Murphy and Stephen Twigg

Our Armed Forces embody the highest values of public service.

Labour has a proud history of mutual respect with our services, from the support Clement Attlee received in 1945 with his campaign for homes and jobs for returning war heroes to more recent efforts to celebrate military sacrifice through Armed Forces Day.

When we talk about the relationship between our nation and the Services the focus is rightly on how we can offer support to match their sacrifice. But our relationship must be about more than that. One of the most meaningful things we can do is enable service personnel to continue to make a contribution to our country when they return from the battlefield.

Let’s be clear – spreading a service ethos in some schools is not about boot camps, cold showers, harsh discipline or recruitment to the forces.

It is about giving young people in state schools the same opportunities as private schools to have access to mentors, cadet programmes and the kind of technical and vocational skills that come from a career in the forces.

It is about values such as leadership, teamwork and selflessness which are embedded in the services. Of course these values already exist in many schools, and they will never be imposed, but we think that where there is local demand, we should offer them more widely.

As part of Labour’s Policy Review we are examining three particular ideas.

The first is ‘Service Schools’. These would have a distinct Service ethos, would employ qualified ex-Forces teachers and offer mentoring from veterans and Reservists. They could be established in new or existing schools of any type – a community school could develop a Service specialism for instance – but we expect many to be in the form of academies which would develop a partnership with a sponsor from, say, the Armed Forces, the Reserve Forces’ and Cadets’ Associations or a Service charity like the British Legion.

We expect there to be demand in communities with greatest economic need, and our key aim is to increase opportunities for those from poorer backgrounds.

Second, we want to look at expanding cadet forces in state schools. At the end of the last school year 76% of all the cadet forces were in private schools despite their accounting for just 8% of all schools. Research from the University of Southampton suggests that “cadets tend to have high levels of respect for authority and others and high levels of self-esteem. They are likely to be committed citizens and have heightened aspirations.”

When you talk to cadets in areas like Lewisham, they say that the experience has given them skills such as confidence, self-reliance and resilience to cope with the pressures of modern life.

The third element is mentoring. Former service personnel and serving reservists can be excellent role models to young people. We want to look at establishing an ‘Armed Services Mentoring Scheme’ for former and reserve members of the Armed Forces, which could be developed in partnerships with organisations such as The Princes Trust and UK Youth. This would provide young people with a range of soft skills, as well as challenging disruptive behaviours. The scheme would also provide a career path in education in for Service-leavers.

There are examples of success. Peter Blunden acts as an Outdoor Behaviour Mentor at St Matthew Academy in South London. Peter joined the Army as a 16 year old who had dropped out of school. He had got into difficulties but through the Army he gained practical qualifications in engineering and fitness. He went on to lead in these areas and spent six years in the army, with tours of duty in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He has created a highly successful intervention programme working with children 6-11 who were disruptive in the classroom. Over a period of 6 weeks or more, children are supported to develop self-esteem and self-confidence, collaboration skills, a vocabulary to express feelings and a team working spirit. Classroom disruption has dropped dramatically and the positive impact has been deeply appreciated by parents and teachers. Peter has enjoyed the work so much he is now applying to do an Access course to PGCE to become a teacher.

We believe that only by taking radical and innovative approaches to creating social mobility and improving attainment can we begin to tackle some of the deep-seated divisions in our society – goals which unite us as Labour activists. We will be on the side of reform when it comes to strengthening the role and respect for our armed services and increasing educational attainment in our poorest communities.

It would be easy for people to mischaracterise these policies, but we want to imbue the values of comradeship and leadership amongst young people. This could be a two way street, providing excellent opportunities for young people and Service-leavers at a time when we need to do more with less. Our Forces’ experiences can provide both moral and technical guidance.

They can make a unique contribution.

Stephen Twigg MP is Labour’s Shadow Education Secretary and Rt Hon Jim Murphy MP is Labour’s Shadow Defence Secretary

  • Bill Lockhart

    ” Labour has a proud history of mutual respect with our services”

    ‘Had’, not ‘has’.  Hoon and Brown saw to that.

  • Johndclare

    I think you have gone completely mad.

    What on earth makes you think that skills gained serving in the armed forces will be appropriate to transfer to the classroom?
    Would you suggest that retiring police officers should be recruited into midwifery?  Or perhaps we might employ disgraced bankers as civil engineers?  It would be no more stupid – in each case, the skill-set is totally different and utterly inappropriate.
    I do not say this to demean returning service personnel – they are heroes, and no doubt some of them could find a very fulfilling role in a school … in which case let’s discount their qualifications against a teacher’s entry-requirements, train them as a teacher, and introduce them into the profession properly.
    To be honest, I wouldn’tt allow *anyone* near children, even in a mentoring or voluntary role without proper (re-)training and certification.

    What Mr Twigg’s ridiculous suggestion betrays is a typical politician’s scorn for and lack of understanding of just what a very demanding and highly skilled profession teaching is (of a ‘it-can’t-be-all-that-difficult’ kind).

    So I have an alternative policy suggestion: that, before they take office, every Labour Education Minister/Shadow *must* spend 6 months teaching in an inner-city comprehensive school.
    And that’ll sort this kind of nonsense out.

    • Quiet_Sceptic

      You really do hold the 1 year PGCE course in very high esteem.

      I’ll play devils advocate with this one because I went to comprehensive, and it truly was comprehensive and frankly a bachelors degree and a PGCE didn’t prepare some of the teachers for some of the students at that school.

      The reality was that those teachers and the training courses they had been through did not give them the skills necessary to deal with some of the students they will meet during their careers.

      So yes, I can well believe that for some schools and for some students, individuals who had been through the armed forces, could instill discipline and provide strong leadership would be better teaching than a fully qualified academic teacher.

      • Johndclare

         Well there’s a coherent argument!  The PGCE doesn’t prepare graduate sufficiently for comprehensive schools … so let’s send in staff even less-prepared than that.
        Typical half-brained prejudice. 
        Firstly, the prejudice that ‘what they need is discipline’, which is a rank instance of treating the symptom not the cause.
        And secondly, what makes you think that a soldier can instill discipline better than a trained teacher just because the army is a disciplined situation?  It’s like me offering to become a surgeon on the grounds that I once had my tonsils out.

        • Quiet_Sceptic

          It’s not prejudice – it’s your narrow assumptions about what constitutes preparation and training, that it relies on a specific curriculum delivered in an academic setting.

          I think if there is prejudice here it is you who displays it.

          When you have ex-service personnel who may have trained cadets,  motivated, developed and led young people, to say they having nothing to bring to the class room isn’t credible.

          As for the idea that a need for discipline is prejudice, I wonder if you’ve ever sat in a class room, the teacher completely unable to control some of the students.  Discipline isn’t prejudice, it’s a prerequisite to allow learning to take place.

      • Trudge74

        I agree the 1 yer pgce is inadequate. Teacher training should be longer or the nqt year is made into a genuine training year rather than a sink or swim initiation ceremony. I am unclear how it then follows that dropping people straight into teaching simply because they have served in the armed forces makes any sense. Maybe give them prioritised access to teacher training if we consider this a good idea. The other question mark remains that even if they were effective at the discipline what would they then actually deliver in this disciplined environment? Or are we falling for the idea that teaching is just telling people stuff for them to remember? Sadly too many people including teachers seem to be falling for this impoverished view of education which an overemphasis on exams has created.

    • Alan Giles

      I agree with you, this policy would be a disaster, both for the ex-service personnel and the pupils.

      You got away with ex Army men (we didn’t have women) as teachers in my day simply because in the 40s and 50s many returning personnel returned to teaching – returned after war service, for which they had been conscripted – and many of them deplored the “lack of discipline” they found – and that was at a time when you could get the cane just for sneezing in class while the teacher was talking. As I have often said in those days you could get a good caning for nothing (these days you have to pay for it! :-)  I wouldn’t want to see those days return when schools could be a place of fear as much as a place of learning.

      Now that “punishment” is not allowed in school (and that might be no bad thing because some of our shower were a bit too fond of whacking the lads – indeed one of our teachers got himself arrested because of a rather unusual hobby he practised after school in the evenings in the park – but that’s another story), I think many of these ex servicemen and women would be very frustrated, they would spend all day shouting at their charges, and I can’t see that anybody would benefit.

      Twigg should certainly try getting a proper job, though I feel teaching might be too onerous for him – I am sure a junior school somewhere needs a caretaker, though.

  • http://twitter.com/TheJerichoRoads John Hitchen

    This idea is so daft, on so many levels, I’m stunned. If this is the best that Labour can offer to “communities with greatest economic need” and generally in terms of education policy ideas they may as well call it quits now.

    • treborc

       I doubt it to these two this is brain storming.

  • treborc

    I really cannot be bothered with this moronic rubbish by two people who are brainless

  • Amber Star

    This isn’t a policy, it’s an idea. The kind you have when you’re down the pub on a Saturday night. 

    Jim Murphy: We need a sensible policy to re-integrate soldiers into the community
    Twigglet: We need a sensible policy for difficult kids to receive the coaching & mentoring they need.

    Conflating the two is not a brilliant way to do more with less, it’s just cheap.

  • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

    I think this sounds very interesting.  Nay-sayers are nay-sayers – don’t worry about them.  It’s an interesting idea worth considering, good on you both for giving it a go.

    • Alan Giles

      Have you thought about joining the Territorial Army, Jon?. As for Twigg & Murphy (Dumb and Dumber), they, too, seem to be starry eyed about the military without having any personal experience. Perhaps they are just into uniforms?

      • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

        I actually did consider a military career, but (I still think this is a bit extreme, despite the fact that it is entirely understandable) I’m quite severely colour blind – as far as I’m concerned it’s hardly the most debilitating of disabilities but try telling that to the powers that be.  It severely limits the number of jobs you can do in the forces and you’d fail your entrance medical.

        Instead I work very closely in a professional capacity with the Royal Navy, and my admiration for them couldn’t be higher seeing in detail the work they do.  I think encouraging ex-forces personnel into teaching is a really good idea worth exploring.

        • Alan Giles

          I am not turning my nose up at them, Jon, far from it; but I don’t think teaching school students would be the best thing to use their skills – perhaps as tutors or instructors in FE colleges, where those who are there are there because they want to be, not because they have to be.  
          With the school leaving age going up to 18 (a very misguided idea IMO but thats another argument), you are going to have a lot of very resentful young men and women,  If we ever adopt a system of technical colleges again, they would be ideal. Speaking for myself, I was very happy to take on  school leavers,  who wanted to learn, I don’t think I would have had the patience to teach a 13 year old who was there because he “had to” be there, especially en masse.

          I really feel you need special skill and talent to teach, and infinite patience.

          • http://twitter.com/robertsjonathan Jonathan Roberts

            I wasn’t accusing you of turning your noses up, I just know some on the left do.

            We’ve talked of technical colleges before and agreed wholeheartedly I recall.

            I think we should be encouraging people from all career backgrounds to go into teaching as a career change.  I’d like to see business people, healthcare professionals, engineers…etc etc take part in some kind of scheme where they maybe have a career break of some sort and teach for a certain number of hours per month at school.  That way young people can learn a range of lessons from the real ‘doers’, and give kids the chance to find out what it is that floats their boat.  I think the military can play a part in that too.

            Whilst I’d never call for a return to physical punishments at the hands of teachers (I had that myself, even though it had been outlawed by the time I was at school!), I do think we’ve gone too far down a softly softly route.  Maybe a bit of military leadership will do some of the more ‘difficult’ kids a bit of good. 

            Personally I take a ‘let’s try it and see’ approach to politics.  I’d much rather give an idea a go and see it fail, rather than never try anything a little outlandish at all.

          • Alan Giles

            The school Anthony Painter is involved with in Hackney, which opens this year would be a good place to have ex-service tutors, because, again, presumably the students (14-19) will be there because they want to be there, and, of course, I.T. is highly developed in the military.I certainly think specialist areas like this would be mutually rewarding for instructor and student,  but I think for  the sort of school I went to (Sec Modern, I don’t think they exist now), it would be a very frustrating experience for the ex-service teacher, because beyond shouting there is not a lot you can do.

            When I think of my own schooldays (so long ago they are in black and white!), and the attitude a lot of us had, I always question the worth of strict discipline – the teachers ruled by fear, and you used arrogance as a defence mechanism.

            I remember one lesson I loved (technical drawing) but was ruined for me because it was taught by one of those cane-handy hacks and if you made the slightest mistake, or a smudge, or even used the wrong grade pencil (2H) you would get a wallop. As a result, Jon, I remember playing truant many Friday mornings simply because I was frankly scared.

            Now to me that teachers behaviour was more to do with an abberation rather than to get the best from the pupil. The thing was I was (fairly) good at TD, but I made mistakes because he made me a nervous wreck.

            I flourished at work because people were kind to me and didn’t shout and demean – that lesson was not lost on me, and when it was my turn to have junior staff, I treated them in the same way.

            This is a long way of saying that with right-wingers like Gove in charge (or a New Labour equivalent), the concern would be that school would become too discipline heavy again .

    • John Dore

      Jonathan I was speaking to my Bro in Law this weekend and he specifically mentioned how the cadets at his school was one of the main reasons his son is going the same school. This is so ironic. 

      Its the usual nay sayers, who dont have a decent idea between them, they are a waste of time.

  • http://twitter.com/mistyblulabour dave stone

    “not about boot camps, cold showers, harsh discipline”

    I’m rather disappointed by this as I would immediately have volunteered both Twigg and Murphy for induction into the remedial squad.

    This pair have very little career experience beyond politics and this may have impaired the development of their own service ethos (ridiculously Murphy went straight from university to the HoC as an MP). Perhaps they could make a start and address their deficiencies by learning the value of not committing British forces to unnecessary wars.

    Lead from the front, lads!

  • Trudge74

    I wept.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Mike-Homfray/510980099 Mike Homfray

    This is flawed on so many levels. The very last thing we want is additional militarism

  • John Dore

    I absolutely love this idea, its new and refreshing. 

  • http://twitter.com/pauljontheleft Paul Johnson

    To what extent is this absurd policy suggestion compatible with the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child?  

    Some of the examples used (e.g. the intervention programme) are quite achievable without military involvement.  As for the armed forces sponsoring academies – how would this work in term of governance? Would there be a military majority on the Governing body?  How would these schools be inspected (would Ofsted need a military wing?)  Would there be military chains of academies – or would different regiments run different academies?  Would military sponsorship extend to Special Schools?  Could a faith academy also be a military sponsored one?   How many serving teachers and educational professionals was this idea run past before it was published?  How about quitting the gimmicks and looking to create an education system for the 21st Century, rather than looking back to the military schools of the 19th?  If you wish to create comradeship and leadership in schools solidarity, surely our trade unions offer an equally good if not better example?  How about working with them instead to achieve your goals?Finally, to  ’unite us as Labour activists’ in improving attainments, social mobility, the authors should realise that amongst these ‘Labour activists’ are many who are in the best traditions of the Labour Party, anti-militaristic and pacifist and to whom such a policy would be indefensible and very divisive.  The strongest opponents of such a scheme would come from our own ranks.

  • Francislerouge

    There is an argument for a specialism,  maybe for bringing a cadet or services stream in schools.   But the idea of setting up yet  more ‘free schools’,  academies, faith schools, or  now military schools or  any other gimmick to divide and splinter communities is pathetic at best and probably positively harmful.
    Yes we should promote trust, co-operation and mutual support, but the people  to do that are trade unionists, and co-operators., not the maintainersand perpetuators of the most hierarchial structure we have.
    P.S.: Don’t teach “respect for authority. Teach authority that it must earn respect. And anew in each generation.   

  • ThePurpleBooker

    Brilliant policy. I think the lefties who hate this policy should stop their snobbish behaviour towards poorer young people as well as their hatred for great traditions and institutions like the armed forces. This policy is good on so many levels and I await the next Labour government putting it in practice. Yes to Service Schools. (I’m talking as someone who used to be a Seargeant).

  • Mickelmas

    These are ludicrous, ignorant and uneducational propositions from Twigg and Murphy. They are implying that “our present state education system is failing pupils because teachers cannot (or will not) imbue children with values of ‘loyalty and discipline’.” Their views are not only a travesty of the true aims of education, they ignorantly assume that ex-service personel can naturally teach children.
    If Gove was not a serious enough threat to the future education of our children, why on earth are we entertaining these ridiculous and stupid ideas from a twit like Twigg? 

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