How Labour MPs voted on recognition of Palestinian Statehood

13th October, 2014 11:13 pm

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Tonight MPs voted on Labour backbencher Grahame Morris’s motion to recognise Palestinian statehood. It was a non-binding vote (so it doesn’t change the government’s position), but the result was an overwhelming 274-12 in favour. Apart from the EU referendum vote (3 line whipped by all three major parties) tonight was the biggest turnout for a backbench vote ever.

So how did Labour MPs vote? Well 192 voted in favour – and one teller for Aye (Alex Cunningham) and two tellers for Noe (Jeremy Corbyn and Mike Wood) supported the motion too. So that’s 195 Labour MPs in total, around 80% of the PLP.

The remaining 63 Labour MPs were either absent/abstained/chose not to vote – there were no Labour MPs amongst the 12 Noe votes, so no-one outright rebelled against the one line whip.

It’s hard to tell for each individual MP what the individual reason was, although some (for example Lucy Powell) have already been in touch to say that they would have voted Yes had they been able to make the vote tonight. Jonathan Reynolds has also indicated his support for a Yes vote, although he wasn’t able to attend the vote today.

Here are the 195 Labour MPs who backed the motion in the chamber tonight:

ABBOTT, Diane, Ms

ABRAHAMS, Debbie, Ms

AINSWORTH, Bob

ALEXANDER, Douglas, Rt Hon

ALEXANDER, Heidi, Ms

ALI, Rushanara, Ms

ALLEN, Graham, Mr

ANDERSON, David, Mr

ASHWORTH, Jonathan, Mr

BAILEY, Adrian, Mr

BAIN, William

BANKS, Gordon, Mr

BARRON, Kevin, Rt Hon

BECKETT, Margaret, Rt Hon

BEGG, Anne, Ms

BENN, Hilary, Rt Hon

BETTS, Clive, Mr

BLACKMAN-WOODS, Roberta, Ms

BLENKINSOP, Tom, Mr

BLOMFIELD, Paul, Mr

BRADSHAW, Ben, Mr

BRENNAN, Kevin, Mr

BROWN, Lyn, Ms

BROWN, Russell, Mr

BRYANT, Chris, Mr

BUCK, Karen, Ms

BURDEN, Richard, Mr

BURNHAM, Andy, Rt Hon

BYRNE, Liam, Rt Hon

CAMPBELL, Alan, Mr

CAMPBELL, Ronnie, Mr

CATON, Martin, Mr

CHAMPION, Sarah, Ms

CHAPMAN, Jenny, Ms

CLARK, Katy, Ms

CLARKE, Tom, Rt Hon

COAKER, Vernon, Mr

CONNARTY, Michael, Mr

COOPER, Rosie, Ms

COOPER, Yvette, Rt Hon

CREASY, Stella, Ms

CRUDDAS, Jon, Mr

CRYER, John, Mr

CUNNINGHAM, Jim, Mr

CUNNINGHAM, Tony, Mr

CURRAN, Margaret, Ms

DAKIN, Nic

DANCZUK, Simon, Mr

DAVID, Wayne, Mr

DAVIDSON, Ian, Mr

DAVIES, Geraint, Mr

DE PIERO, Gloria, Ms

DENHAM, John, Rt Hon

DOBSON, Frank, Rt Hon

DOCHERTY, Thomas, Mr

DONOHOE, Brian H

DORAN, Frank, Mr

DOUGHTY, Stephen, Mr

DOWD, Jim, Mr

DOYLE, Gemma, Ms

DROMEY, Jack, Mr

EAGLE, Angela, Ms

EAGLE, Maria, Ms

EFFORD, Clive, Mr

ELLIOTT, Julie, Ms

ESTERSON, Bill, Mr

EVANS, Chris

FARRELLY, Paul, Mr

FIELD, Frank, Rt Hon

FITZPATRICK, Jim, Mr

FLELLO, Robert, Mr

FLINT, Caroline, Rt Hon

FLYNN, Paul, Mr

GAPES, Mike, Mr

GILMORE, Sheila, Ms

GLINDON, Mary, Ms

GOODMAN, Helen, Ms

GREATREX, Tom, Mr

GREEN, Kate, Ms

GREENWOOD, Lilian, Ms

GRIFFITH, Nia, Ms

HAMILTON, David, Mr

HANSON, David, Rt Hon

HARMAN, Harriet, Rt Hon

HEALEY, John, Rt Hon

HENDRICK, Mark, Mr

HEPBURN, Stephen, Mr

HEYES, David, Mr

HILLIER, Meg, Ms

HILLING, Julie, Ms

HODGSON, Sharon, Ms

HOOD, Jim

HOPKINS, Kelvin, Mr

HOWARTH, George, Mr

IRRANCA-DAVIES, Huw, Mr

JACKSON, Glenda, Ms

JAMIESON, Cathy, Ms

JARVIS, Dan, Mr

JOHNSON, Diana, Ms

JONES, Graham, Mr

JONES, Kevan, Mr

JONES, Susan Elan

KANE, Mike, Mr

KAUFMAN, Gerald, Rt Hon

KEELEY, Barbara, Ms

KHAN, Sadiq, Mr

LAVERY, Ian, Mr

LAZAROWICZ, Mark, Mr

LESLIE, Chris, Mr

LEWELL-BUCK, Emma, Ms

LOVE, Andrew

LUCAS, Ian, Mr

MACTAGGART, Fiona, Ms

MAHMOOD, Khalid, Mr

MAHMOOD, Shabana, Ms

MALHOTRA, Seema, Ms

MARSDEN, Gordon, Mr

MCCABE, Steve, Mr

MCCARTHY, Kerry, Ms

MCCLYMONT, Gregg, Mr

MCDONAGH, Siobhain, Ms

MCDONALD, Andy, Mr

MCDONNELL, John, Mr

MCGOVERN, Jim

MCINNES, Liz, Ms

MCKECHIN, Ann, Miss

MCKENZIE, Iain, Mr

MCKINNELL, Catherine, Ms

MEACHER, Michael, Rt Hon

MEARNS, Ian, Mr

MILIBAND, Edward

MILLER, Andrew, Mr

MOON, Madeleine, Ms

MORDEN, Jessica, Ms

MORRICE, Graeme, Mr

MORRIS, Grahame M, Mr

MUDIE, George, Mr

MURRAY, Ian, Mr

NANDY, Lisa, Ms

NASH, Pamela, Ms

O’DONNELL, Fiona, Ms

ONWURAH, Chi

OSBORNE, Sandra, Mrs

OWEN, Albert, Mr

PERKINS, Toby, Mr

PHILLIPSON, Bridget, Ms

POUND, Stephen, Mr

QURESHI, Yasmin, Ms

RAYNSFORD, Nick, Rt Hon

REED, Jamie, Mr

REYNOLDS, Emma, Ms

RIORDAN, Linda, Ms

ROTHERAM, Steve, Mr

ROY, Frank, Mr

ROY, Lindsay, Mr

RUANE, Chris, Mr

RUDDOCK, Joan, Ms

SARWAR, Anas, Mr

SAWFORD, Andy, Mr

SEABECK, Alison, Ms

SHARMA, Virendra, Mr

SHEERMAN, Barry, Mr

SHERIDAN, Jim

SHUKER, Gavin, Mr

SKINNER, Dennis, Mr

SLAUGHTER, Andy

SMITH, Angela, Ms

SMITH, Nick, Mr

SMITH, Owen, Mr

STRAW, Jack, Rt Hon

STUART, Gisela, Mrs

SUTCLIFFE, Gerry, Mr

TAMI, Mark, Mr

THOMAS, Gareth

THORNBERRY, Emily, Ms

TIMMS, Stephen, Rt Hon

TRICKETT, Jon, Mr

TURNER, Karl, Mr

TWIGG, Derek, Mr

TWIGG, Stephen, Mr

UMUNNA, Chuka, Mr

VAZ, Keith, Rt Hon

VAZ, Valerie, Ms

WALLEY, Joan, Ms

WATTS, Dave, Mr

WHITEHEAD, Alan, Mr

WILLIAMSON, Chris, Mr

WILSON, Phil, Mr

WINNICK, David, Mr

WINTERTON, Rosie, Rt Hon

WRIGHT, David, Mr

WRIGHT, Iain, Mr

Teller (Aye):

CUNNINGHAM, Alex, Mr

Plus tellers for no

CORBYN, Jeremy

WOOD, Mike

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  • Dez

    ‘The remaining 63 Labour MPs were either absent/abstained/chose not to vote – there were no Labour MPs amongst the 12 Noe votes, so no-one outright rebelled against the one line whip.’

    Get real,there were no Labour MP’s among the No votes because they were told to stay away.

    A complete farce.

    • David Lindsay

      There are several very pro-Palestinian names among the absentees.

      The votes in favour and the tellers added up to precisely 23 times the number of votes against. Twenty-three times.

      If none of this mattered, then why did the Israelis lobby so hard against it, and why are their partisans so angry about it?

      Matthew Offord read out a foreign embassy’s press release as his speech in a House of Commons debate. There needs to be firm action, both against him and against the Israeli Ambassador.

      Only six of the 12 were Conservatives, not even one in 50 Conservative MPs. None was Labour.

      Douglas Carswell did not vote against. Or, indeed, at all.

      • Hugh

        “Matthew Offord read out a foreign embassy’s press release as his speech
        in a House of Commons debate. There needs to be firm action, both
        against him and against the Israeli Ambassador.”

        Could you explain that – linking us to the press release he read and explaining what action and under what rules we should expect?

        • ColinAdkins

          I agree. Offord has the right to disagree even though I disagree with him.

        • David Lindsay

          He was berated for it by Edward Leigh. It was blatant.

          It ought to be expulsion from the House for Offord and expulsion from the country for Taub, who is currently in Israel, anyway.

          It wouldn’t be that. But it ought to be. And it has to be something.

          • Hugh

            No, Edward Leigh said he was speed reading from an Israeli government hand out. Personally, I did not take him to mean literally. Either way, what grounds exactly are your proposing for these explulsions?

          • David Lindsay

            If you have to ask, then there is no point telling you.

            This is a kind of treason.

          • Hugh

            I’d have to check but I don’t think it is treason to agree with the Israeli government, nor even to repeat its arguments if you do. As for what you’re planning to expel the Israeli ambassador for the mind boggles – approving a press release?

          • David Lindsay

            Interfering in our parliamentary process.

          • Hugh

            No, I’m reasonably sure foreign ambassadors are not banned making representations to MPs.

          • David Lindsay

            I am fairly sure that they are not supposed to write their parliamentary speeches.

          • Hugh

            I’m fairly sure he didn’t. He may well have had notes from an Israeli government briefing, I suppose, and he may well have refered to them. Neither is banned. I think it’s significant that there is a complete absence of anyone at all calling for any sanction whatever against either him or the Israeli ambassador – other than you.

          • Guest

            What a surprise, remove MP’s and banish people for saying something you don’t like.

      • Michael

        I was speaking to Reynolds last Thursday and he was very supportive of the amendment, he just couldn’t make it for the vote.

        • David Lindsay

          My own MP (Pat Glass), likewise. Or Roger Godsiff, for example.

      • Dez

        A one line whip to attend and a three line whip on which way to vote.
        Are you trying to convince yourself?

        • David Lindsay

          Convince myself of what?

      • V Hale

        There are several very pro-Israel Labour MPs who *were* told to stay away. It was in the papers that they were, and ones who are prominent in Friends of Israel. Or did none of this happen and in fact everyone in the Labour Party was happy and united over Palestine?

        Edit: Just read your bit about Matthew Offord and having “action” against him and the Israeli ambassador. What “action” should this be? Your comment is a little disconcerting.

        • David Lindsay

          It ought to be expulsion from the House for Offord and expulsion from the country for Taub, who is currently in Israel, anyway.

          It wouldn’t be that. But it ought to be. And it has to be something.

          • Guest

            Yes, of course you need to exterminate all other views. Why, someone said something similar one, get out! That community didn’t cheer loudly enough, out!

      • Oz

        “Dr. Matthew Offord MP is spewing Israeli propaganda. Fortunately he seems to be in a minority.‬” — is what I wrote on on tuesday.

      • Leon Wolfeson

        What a surprise, you’re all for punishing MP’s for saying things you don’t like, as you attack one of the fundamental parts of our Democracy – the absolute privilege enjoyed by MP’s for speaking in the commons.

  • carlton temple-powell

    I’m afraid Ed Miliband and the Labour Party can expect some very ‘Bad Press’ from the Pro-Israeli lobby which extends well beyond its front line campaigners and finds a powerful voice across all media. David Cameron knows this and has ducked the issue out of political expedience. Ed Miliband and Labour can expect this bad press to continue right upto the next election, we saw it begin last week in the lead up to the vote. So watch out Ed, stay strong and keep to the principle of a two-nation peace deal. Ed Miliband’s statesmanship eclipses Cameron’s cowardice on this issue.

    • ColinAdkins

      Sorry I think this is a bit too conspiratorial. Yes there will be normal hostility from the likes of Melanie Phillips but that would have come for just debating the issue.

      • MikeHomfray

        Also, I think public opinion is not sympathetic to Israel, and if we are being totally hard nosed about this, the palestinian lobby and its voters are overwhelmingly Labour. and Zionists are not

        • Leon Wolfeson

          And if you decide morality based on voting…

    • Hugh

      “the Pro-Israeli lobby” = people who disagree with me.

      • Doug Smith

        Nope.

        The pro-Israel lobby is a loose coalition of individuals and organisations who actively work to steer foreign policy in a direction favourable to Israel’s government.

        • Hugh

          Please explain to me the difference between a pro-Palestinian piece in the Guardian and a pro-Isreal one in the Telegraph. If the latter is down to the pro-Israeli lobby, in what way is the former not down to the pro-Palestine lobby?

          • Doug Smith

            Goodness, you’re childishly seeking to score a point with a straw person erection.

            Is anyone claiming that a particular pro-Palestinian piece in the Guardian wasn’t authored by an individual or organisation hoping steer foreign policy in a direction favourable to Palestinians?

          • Hugh

            Since you seem to define lobby to mean anyone who makes an argument in the press, it is meaningless. People disagree and make arguments in public all the time about all sorts of policies. For some reason when it’s in favour of Israel it is always the result of an Israeli “lobby”.

          • Doug Smith

            If you want to define ‘lobby’ refer to my earlier post:

            “… a loose coalition of individuals and organisations who actively work to steer foreign policy in a direction favourable to… ” etc.

            A lobby often only becomes apparent in the results it achieves.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      Except in practice, you’re pushing for a three-state solution.

  • swatnan

    Far too many MPs absented themselves from both sides of the House. That is a disgrace. Its time they stood up and be counted and put their money where their mouth is. The victory was a phyrric victory; should have been a Free Vote, and not whipped.

  • ColinAdkins

    Of course the Israeli Government has to be involved but they cannot exercise a veto if the negotiations are to be meaningful. That is why I liked your post but support the decision in Parliament yesterday.

  • Stan_J

    I’m shocked to see Louise Ellman missing from that list. Shocked, I say!

  • carlton temple-powell

    As a Jewish person you must see that the excesses of successive Israeli govts and the irresponsible cheerleading of the pro-Israeli lobby is leading to a frightening rise in anti-semitism. So much so that many Jews now feel forced to flee from France. This will only get worse. The inflexible attitude and brutal acts of the Israeli govt now endanger Jewish people around the world. The Israeli govt must change its approach and the Pro-Israeli lobby must back off so that an international brokered diplomatic solution can be found. Yes we should condemn terrorism, rockets/tunnels etc, but non of this will stop unless the Israeli govt embraces a fair and lasting peace that all sides can live with.

    • LabourJew

      I can’t disagree with much of what you say at all. But don’t discount the impact to the mentality of a country under indiscriminate rocket attack by Hamas. Desperation (which I recognise) never justifies terror. But I totally agree that the inflexibility and intransigence of the Netanyahu government is deplorable and beyond contempt.

    • Leon Wolfeson

      No.

      There is a sharp difference between Israel and Israeli government. It’s like blaming a SNP supporter for ATOS.

      What threatens people is criminal actions, violence caused for hate. Appeasement of terrorism – which is what changing your views as a result of that sort of fear is – is not the answer.

      There’s a massive difference between the actions against Hamas in Gaza (which even had the support of most Isralie Arabs, by the polls), and what happens with the Settlers in the West Bank, where many Jews like myself support Peace Now and oppose the government and the settlers.

  • Naeem Malik

    Perhaps you should be clear of what is it that makes you proud to be Zionist? You say you are pro-Palestinian. Perhaps you can clarify. Do you agree that Palestinians have every right to be in Palestine and to live in their homes and to return to their homes they have been refused to re-enter. I am pro everything is like saying I am racist and an anti-racist. You have some serious issues of identity. You cannot be everything.

    • LabourJew

      Utter nonsense. I believe in the Jewish right to self-determination in their historic homeland, and I believe in the Palestinian right to a sovereign state in Palestine. These positions are not contradictory – they require compromise on both sides – but are achievable under a negotiated two state solution. Jews need to surrender all territorial rights to cities like Hebron and Shechem (Nablus) where there has been a continuous Jewish presence for millennia (well, except for the forced expulsion of the Jewish Community when the area was part of Trans-Jordan). And the Palestinians need to accept that Jaffa and Lod will be in the State of Israel (but will continue to be populated by a growing Israeli-Arab community). There needs to be a historic restitution to all those that have been displaced and a sharing of Jerusalem (by the way all of this was within the Oslo framework agreed by the Palestinian and Israeli leadership in the early 90s). So, no Naeem – I have no identity issues at all, I support a comprehensive, permanent and just solution that allows two peoples to live side by side, in two states, in the territory between the dead sea and the Med.

      • Naeem Malik

        Leaving aside the utter stupidiy of the idea of a historic homeland of people left over 2000 years ago. The racist idea of the right of self determination of the Jewish people in a land that is already inhabited by another is laughable. Having dealt with the insults, let us deal with the substance of the issues. People that live in a particular place have every right to self determination. That self determination is not based on faith or race but on a physical attachment to the land. The right to redress of any wrond doing is also a principal aspect of Human Rights and that right of return to their own homes are the most basic of Human Rights and must be accepted in its entirety as a basis for any compromise. It would be up to the individual Palestinians as to whether they would want to exercise that right and what they would be wiling to accept as redress. Palestinians and Jews living in any part of Palestine or refugees from any part would have equal rights. Any state or states would be the state of all its peoples. If you accept that you would not be Zionist. However, you cannot say you deny Palestinian rights as a zionist but you respect Palestinian rights as long as they do not impinge on Zionist idea of Palestine. The two are exclusive ot each other. Palestinians are willing to compromise Jews living in Palestine can remain in Palestine as equal citizens. . .

        • Guest

          Ah yes, it’s racist because “Jewish”, never mind history.

          And of course, “equal” access for Hamas to Jews, so they can die.

  • Naeem Malik

    It seems to me that recognition of Palestine is a minimum we can do. We need to acknowledge that Palestinians are facing a threat to their existence in Palestine and that in our refusal to acknowledge the wrong done to the Palestinians over decades and for ever defending Israel’s Military actions as Israel’s right of defense is only encouraging the Israeli government to continue its brutal occupation. We need to be considering stopping supply of arms to Israel until it ends its occupation. It is argued that supplying arms that can be used against the occupied is illegal and at least definitely immoral.

    • Guest

      The threat is actually Hamas, as you deny Jews have a right to self-defence. What a surprise.

      And you want Israel to turn to Russia and China for weapons…oh yea, that ends well!

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