Bradford West selection begins

2nd March, 2012 6:13 pm

It was only yesterday that Bradford West MP Masha Singh announced that he was stepping down due to ill health, but the party has wasted no time in beginning the selection process for the seat. The timetable is truncated with nominations closing on Monday and the selection meeting taking place next weekend.

The by-election date is likely to be announced soon, but the two most likely dates being mooted at present are March 29th and April 5th.

As for candidates who might enter the selection race for Labour, there are already some candidates being hotly tipped – and others who might be expected to enter the race in the coming days. As always, this isn’t an exhaustive list, so if you know anyone else who is standing, please email us ([email protected]). The candidates we’re hearing most widely discussed at present are (in alphabetical order):

Update: We’re now hearing that Manchester Councillor Afzal Khan is a potential candidate for the seat. We’ve added a profile of him below.

Update: College lecturer Duncan Hall has also thrown his hat into the ring. We’ve added a profile of him below.

Update: Two more names in the mix – Rupa Huq and Fadel Takrouri – profiles added below.

Ralph Berry– A long-serving local councillor in the neighbouring Bradford South constituency, Berry has considerable experience in local government. He went to university in Bradford, and is currently the lead member for Education on the council. He lived for 6 years in Manningham, and was election agent, Ward secretary and Bradford West Treasurer. He has close family links to the area, and his wife Cllr Gill Thornton was born in Manningham.

Duncan Hall – A college lecturer, freelance writer and semi-professional musician, Hall is the author of A Pleasant Change from Politics: Music and the British Labour Movement Between the Wars, and Vice Chair of Skipton and Ripon Labour Party

Andy Hull – Islington Councillor Andy Hull is another potential candidate for the seat. Hull has won national plaudits for his role as co-chair of the Islington Fairness Commission, a ground-breaking initiative which sought to identify ways that a local authority could lessen inequality. This model has now been adopted by other major cities and recently earned Hull the LGiU ‘Scrutineer of the Year’ award. Hull has local links too (always important in any selection like this), having gone to school in the constituency.

Rupa Huq– Former Ealing Deputy Mayoress Dr Rupa Huq is so far the first female candidate we’ve heard associated with the selection. Huq is a lecturer at Kingston University and has plenty of electoral experience, having been a candidate in the 2004 European Parliamentary elections and the PPC for Chesham and Amersham in 2005.

Imran Hussain – Cllr Imran Hussain represents Toller Ward in Bradford West and is Deputy Leader of Bradford Council. Imran was born, raised and has lived in Bradford West all his life. For the last 10 years he has been Chair of Bradford West Constituency Party and joined the Labour Party at 17. He qualified as a barrister at the Honourable Society of Lincolns Inn, London and, from 2003, worked mainly as a criminal defence lawyer. Imran also played a key role in ensuring that the English Defence League demonstration in Bradford in August 2010 was contained and ran a high visibility public campaign against the EDL. Imran is supported by all 12 of his Cllr colleagues in Bradford West.

Afzal Khan – Born in poverty in Pakistan, Khan was brought to the UK aged 12, leaving school without qualifications and working in a cotton mill, then later as a police constable, before returning to education and qualifying as a solicitor. Afzal entered party politics in 2000, becoming Manchester’s youngest, and first Asian, Lord Mayor in 2005. Khan is an active member of GMB and Unite; has also run campaigns with Unison and Usdaw, particularly on anti-racism work, and was awarded a CBE in 2008 for services to community and interfaith relations and to local government. He was mooted as a potential by-election candidate in Oldham 15 months ago.

Fadel Takrouri – Of Palestinian origin, Takrouri’s career started in Nuclear Physics. In the mid 1990s he moved from Physics to Business; delivering health services to more than 60,000 people. He’s worked extensively with social enterprises that have a focus on community cohesion and economic regeneration – currently he serves as a director of a housing association and is the Chairman of the British Arab Federation of the West Midlands.

We’ll be adding more potential candidates as we hear about them

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  • Epsmurphy

    Why don;t AWS apply toany of these by elections?

  • nottinghampaul

    Not in the least bit surprised to see Ralph Berry being mentioned as a likely runner. He is as Bradford as can be without actually being born there. Part of the talented Class of 91 elected to Bradford Council more than 20 years ago, he has been an assiduous local councillor from the outset. More recently he has demonstrated a sound command of his brief as Lead Member for Education. He would be an excellent choice & would certainly have my support if I still lived in Bradford.

    • neil nerva

      Dr Mohammed Salam writes “We need someone who understands the issues and needs of the residents of this constituent. A person, who is able to help us, who is able to make our and our children’s lives comfortable and make Bradford a model city to live and work.”

      Step forward  Ralph Berry   ………   As a social care professional and experienced councillor Ralph would bring to the PLP much needed in depth knowledge and practical expertise on education and childcare issues

      I have known Ralph for 30 years and hope Ralph is makes it onto the shortlist and is selected as the candidate 

  • Realistically – will Labour choose a white candidate to replace a departing Asian MP given the demographics of the seat? I actually worked on a project with Marsha many years ago and he was a very good candidate and a popular MP with very good knowledge of health issues. As someone from Sikh origins I recall his selection was controversial at the time but he was able to be a very effective representative

    Whilst I want the best candidate to win, given recent events, I hope there are strong local candidates from Bradford’s Muslim community who put themselves forward. I think they could speak with genuine knowledge and insight 

    • treborc

      Lets hope the best person gets it, whom ever that is.

      • Amber Star

        They could all be ‘best’ in different ways from each other.

        Meritocracy sounds good but isn’t the easy solution that many people assume it to be.

        • treborc

          Afzal Khan would be the lad I went for, but to be honest I do not know any of them, but I’m fed up with Universities and I fed up with barrister and lawyers, be nice to get somebody who went to work without the qualifications work their way up

  • Dr Mohammed Salam

    Will Labour choose a white candidate to replace a
    departing Asian MP given the demographics of the seat?

    The answer is –
    Labour will choose a best candidate for the job. I am a labour member in this
    constituency for the last 35 years. I have seen many local and national
    selections and elections in this constituency. We had Max Madden as someone
    from white origins; we had Marsh Singh as someone from Sikh origins. Max Madden was not chosen because he
    was white, nor Marsha Singh was chosen because he was Asian or Sikh.

    So what is the fuss about? I am very clear in my mind that
    we will be able to select a candidate who is best for the job.

    We need someone who understands the issues and needs of the
    residents of this constituent. A person, who is able to help us, who is able to
    make our and our children’s lives comfortable and make Bradford a model city to
    live and work.  

    Form the current list of candidates, there is no doubt that Imran Hussain is an exceptionally suitable candidate for
    this job, and this is not because he is  someone
    from Asian origin or Muslim.

    His candidacy proves; He is young, dynamic and intelligent. He
    is highly educated. He is a good listener. He is a very good case worker. He was born, raised and has lived in Bradford West all his
    life

    He is fully aware of the issues faced by this constituency,
    such as Housing, Unemployment, Social care, under achievements in schools, community
    cohesion, etc.

    Imran Hussain as councillor for Toller Ward in Bradford West, and as a Deputy
    Leader of Bradford Council, has proved himself with remarkable track record
    that he is the best councillor we ever had.

    He would be an excellent choice & would certainly have
    my support and I am sure all communities in this constituency want to see him
    as their Member of Parliament.

    GOOD LUCK TO OUR LOCAL LAD.

    Dr Mohammed Salam

  • Danyal Ali

    Imran Hussain is definitely the local choice. He has a huge profile in bradford and for years now the local community has been mooting him as the next MP after Marsha. He has the support of all the labour councillors in Bradford West and is definitely the best man for the job.

    With Galloway’s name being mentioned as a contestant it would be suicidal for Labour to pick anyone other than him in this seat.

  • Epsmurphy

    Why do we not have AWS for by elections like this one

  • Dr Mohammed Salam

    Will Labour choose a white candidate to replace a
    departing Asian MP given the demographics of the seat?

    The answer is
    – Labour will choose a best candidate for the job. I am a labour member in this
    constituency for the last 35 years. I have seen many local and national
    selections and elections in this constituency. We had Max Madden as someone
    from white origins; we had Marsh Singh as someone from Sikh origins. Max Madden was not chosen because he
    was white, nor Marsha Singh was chosen because he was Asian or Sikh.

    So what is the fuss about? I am very clear in my mind that
    we will be able to select a candidate who is best for the job.

    We need someone who understands the issues and needs of the
    residents of this constituent. A person, who is able to help us, who is able to
    make our and our children’s lives comfortable and make Bradford a model city to
    live and work. 

    Form the current list of candidates, there is no doubt that Imran Hussain is an
    exceptionally suitable candidate for this job, and this is not because he is  someone from Asian origin or Muslim.

    His candidacy proves; He is young, dynamic and
    intelligent. He is highly educated. He is a good listener. He is a very good case worker. He was born, raised and has lived in Bradford
    West all his life

    He is fully aware of the issues faced by this constituency,
    such as Housing, Unemployment, Social care, under achievements in schools,
    community cohesion, etc.

    Imran Hussain as councillor for Toller Ward in Bradford
    West, and as a Deputy Leader of Bradford Council, has proved himself with remarkable
    track record that he is the best councillor we ever had.

    He
    would be an excellent choice & would certainly have my support and I am
    sure all communities in this constituency want to see him as their Member of
    Parliament.

    GOOD LUCK TO OUR LOCAL LAD.

    Dr Mohammed Salam

  • Koba

    All the candidates look good so far but Imran Hussain seems most impressive. Glad to see  there are no cookie-cutter blairite spads (yet).

  • Brumanuensis

    My money is on Imran Hussain, who strikes me as the most impressive candidate. Mind you, I work in the legal profession so I’m biased.

    Second choice would undoubtedly be Berry, who sounds similarly impressive and has good local connexions. Not so sure about Hull – Islington, really? – but I’m sure he’d be an excellent MP.

    Afzal Khan should be a no-no. Fine credentials, but you can’t seriously think of selecting a Lancastrian for a seat in the West Riding? All in all, a good set of candidates though.

    • Redshift

      The mancs aren’t in lancs anymore.

      • Oh yes they are.

      • Brumanuensis

        Historically speaking Redshift. My Grandmother from Dewsbury sees them as such   😉 

  • Dr Mohammed Salam

    Form the current list of candidates, there is no doubt that Imran Hussain is an
    exceptionally suitable candidate for this job, and this is not because he is  someone from Asian origin or Muslim.

    His candidacy proves; He is young, dynamic and
    intelligent. He is highly educated. He is a good listener. He is a very good case worker. He was born, raised and has lived in Bradford
    West all his life

    He is fully aware of the issues faced by this constituency,
    such as Housing, Unemployment, Social care, under achievements in schools,
    community cohesion, etc.

    Imran Hussain as councillor for Toller Ward in Bradford
    West, and as a Deputy Leader of Bradford Council, has proved himself with remarkable
    track record that he is the best councillor we ever had.

    He would be an
    excellent choice & would certainly have my support and I am sure all
    communities in this constituency want to see him as their Member of Parliament.

    GOOD LUCK TO OUR LOCAL LAD.

    Dr Mohammed Salam

  • Alanjones

    So no serious candidates yet then. 

    How often do local councillors get the seat? Think about it: Barnsley East, the seat that Seema Malhorta won etc etc. 

    All this post means is that labourlist don’t have enough contacts to get the low down on the real candidates. The seat will go to an ex-SPAD, oxbridge educated most likely. Stop being so naive. 

  • markfergusonuk

    I think there are clearly some serious candidates here. Also, I think you’ll find in our previous selection coverage we’ve usually had the winning candidate highlighted.

    As for Oxbridge educated former spads – we’re not hearing anything along those lines. I don’t rule it out, but our sources are fairly strong.

    • Alanjones

      When was the last time a serving councillor was selected to contest a parliamentary by-election? I honestly don’t know the answer, but as long as I’ve been following politics (admittedly only4 years) I’ve never seen this happen. We’ve got Dan Jarvis, Michael Dugher, Debbie Abrahams, Seema Malhorta, maybe I’ve missed a few. While these guys weren’t former spads, (except seema), they were the candidate favoured by the labour party leadership. Don’t even get me started on the head office shenanigans that secured Jarvis his seat (it’s my CLP, so I know). So unless one of these 4 has a friend named Ed, they’re just wasting their time. 

      • ThePurpleBooker

        You mean Jon Ashworth not Michael Dugher, and you’ve missed out the new Scottish MP for Iverclyde.

        • Alanjones

          Both actually. Dugher was Brown’s man, and was given the safe seat of Barnsley East as a reward for loyalty

      • Anonymous

        Alan, you patently know nothing of the seat. Imran Hussain is an absolute shoe-in and Berry may want it but he doesn’t have a prayer. As long as he’s on the shortlist, Imran will win the selection easily and the seat with a significant swing – there is no Mirpuri Tory who could get close to beating him. He’ll get a huge increase in the Labour vote in Toller, Manningham, City and the parts of Heaton where previous Tory candidates like Riaz, Rashid and to a lesser extent, Iqbal managed to make inroads into against Marsha Singh.

    • I can’t comment too much but locally there is one candidate who is expected to get it, deservedly so. It will be quite the upset if they don’t, and yes, you’ve got them on the shortlist already Mark!

    • ThePurpleBooker

      Can I ask you, Mark on a slightly seperate note. Have you heard more about selection processes in other key marginal seats, and other rumours since I know some constituency parties are beginning to select. Also, are you planning to stand as the Labour candidate in Hendon or Finchley and Golder’s Green by any chance? I think you should.

  • Vseddon

    What, no women candidates? 

  • Paul

    Interesting comments.

    I think that on this one, the seat should go to someone from outside the area.  A fresh approach is required for this seat.  All the candidates listed represent the status quo, which is simply not good enough.  We need someone who can focus on improving outcomes for the residents. 

  • Misread the first name as ‘Ralph Baldwin’ and nearly had a heart attack..

    • AlanGiles

      Ralph Baldwin would be a very good M.P.He has honesty and integrity which is more than can be said for many “honourable members” on all sides of the House.

  • Debbie Abrahams did live in the seat, had been on Rochdale council, was the former chair of the local PCT and had contested the next door seat at the general election, though – she was a local candidate

    • ThePurpleBooker

      Labour shouldn’t have chosen her to be the MP. I think that Afzal Khan would have been better for Oldham East, personally. I think Debbie Abrahams should have become an MP in another seat.

  • nottinghampaul

    No need to go outside the Constituency when there are clearly very strong candidates within it. Ralph Berry has put in the hard yards for many, many years. He knows the constituency inside out & is an extremely effective communicator. He would be a first class advocate for the people of Bradford West.

  • Dr Mohammed Salam

    In the past you might have heard that Manningham was a no go area for outsiders except Manningham residence. 

    My advise to outsider that ” Bradford West is an unique constituency with divers expectations. It takes 10 to 15 years to understand it. Only a long stanstanding local resident can understand it. And no one knows it better than IMRAN HUSSAIN. Hence it is still a no go area for outsider.

    So far we have no better candidate than IMRAN HUSSAIN.

    Gambling is forbidden for me being a Muslim, otherwise I would have bet on IMRAN HUSSAIN,   without a shadow of doubt. This is a 100% winner.

    Dr Mohammed Salam

  • ThePurpleBooker

    I think that Imran Hussain, would be a good candidate for Bradford West. He has been chair of the constituency party, he is extremely local, he worked in Lincoln’s Inn – a good sign of social mobility, he is the deputy leader of the council with massive support from colleagues. Also he is from an ethnic minority background which would be significant, since it will show that we are the one party increasing BAME candidates.
    I think Afzal Khan would be a brilliant candidate in Manchester Central, when Tony Lloyd resigns to become Police and Crime Commissioner. That would be great. I’d surprised that James Purnell hasn’t put his hat in the ring because he should return BY 2015.

  • Mr Potato

    As has been said before, all the candidates seem to be more of the same.  sme old lawers and barristers and professional politicians.

    I dont know who willbe selected as the next candidate, but one thing you can bet your bottom doller on is that he wont be white. the deal has been done and its only a formality now. We will know by weds.Mark my words.

  • Jayparmar321

    This by election could be an opportunity, as some have already suggested, to bring in a fresh approach to the area, move away from the status quo as well as bring some balance to the gender imbalance that exists in the current list.  So why not look for a genuine female candidate, someone who could challenge the status quo, champion the issues of residents and provide some real outcomes.

    But before I put a name forward that might have many of you scratching your heads and leaving you bemused – and coupled with the suggestion that George Galloway might be standing to contest the seat the following suggestion may sound even more ludicrous – but there is a logic!

    Why not approach Salma Yaqoob and see if she would be willing to put her talent and genuine commitment towards community benefit into a real credible party! Apparently she is originally from Bradford and has close family ties to the area.

    I spoke to some relatives and friends from the area in Birmingham in which she was a councillor and they all seemed to feel that she did bring about a lot of positive change for her constituents during her tenure.

    Whilst at first glance the idea may seem unbelievable I think it may well be a way of challenging a lot of the issues that exist in Bradford and the surrounding areas as well as national perceptions of segregation of communities in these areas, whilst stamping our party’s commitment to wider representation.

    Food for thought..

  • markfergusonuk

    Once this selections is out of the way we’ll be moving on to coverage of some of the early 2015 selections that are coming up (Lincoln for example).

    As for Hendon and Finchley, there are some brilliant people who could and should stand for those seats. I already have a fantastic job that I love very much.

    • ThePurpleBooker

      Could you reveal some of thse ‘brilliant people’ who might stand in Hendon and Finchley and Golders Green?

    • ThePurpleBooker

      Oh brilliant. It’s important that attention moves to Tory and Lib Dem marginals, that we need to take in order to win.
      Also, can you possibly reveal any of these “brilliant people” could take back Hendon and Finchley for Labour?

  • Brumanuensis

    That’s a very good suggestion re. Afzal Khan. Not so sure about Purnell, I think he’s too out of sympathy with the current leadership to consider returning to Parliament.

    • ThePurpleBooker

      The current leadership like him. Purnell has been closely involved in Blue Labour, he’s been working closely with the likes of Caroline Flint and Liam Byrne, his proposed welfare reforms (which I think are brilliant) have been endorsed by the shadow cabinet and I know that both Miliband brothers want him back, probably even Yvette Cooper, since she’s his mate – though, I’m not sure about Ed Balls.

      • Alex G

        exactly the names of the people the labour party need to get rid of, not bring back.

        they were the soldiers of new labour, and see where it took the party

        • ThePurpleBooker

          Soldiers of New Labour? Firstly, he is as much as a New Labour soldier as Ed Miliband and secondly New Labour won us three elections and gave us the largest majorities we ever had which transformed lives for the better.
          But Purnell understands why we lost. He needs to come back, and he will.

      • Jeff_Harvey

        “… his (Purnell’s) proposed welfare reforms…”

        Welfare reforms?

        If you can provide a couple of links to details in respect to the next Purnellian abortion I’d be grateful.  Or did the slimy little sh*t reveal his plans to you, personally, sub rosa?

        And how on earth could you possibly know that Purnell’s “Welfare Reforms” have been endorsed by the shadow cabinet? Or that the current leadership like Purnell? (Although Ed Miliband did sound him out with a view to recruiting him as his Chief of Staff.) Or that he’s been working with Caroline Flint and Liam Byrne? (Although THAT might help explain something in respect to their Toryesque behaviour in the recent past.) Or that the Miliband brothers and Yvette Cooper want him back? 

        Have you successfully installed bugs in selected offices?

        Or have you been hacking phones?

        You’re not Rupert Murdoch are you?

      • AlanGiles


         Purnell has been closely involved in Blue Labour”

        This should tell everybody everything they need to know (I wonder when the left wing of the Conservative party will form “Red Conservative”)

        The idea of “Blue Labour” is otiose: I half jokingly used to refer to New Labour as “Slightly Lighter Blue Tories”.

        If I may say so, if you want right-of-centre politics and politicians, there is already a Conservative party – why re-invent the wheel?

  • Brumanuensis

    Two points:

    a). She resigned on account of ill health, so I doubt she’d want to stand for election to Parliament.

    b). She’s not a member of the Labour Party, so adopting her as a candidate would be, er, problematic.

    • Jayparmar321

      Where there’s a will there’s a way.

      But what are your thoughts on the idea/strategy itself??

      • Brumanuensis

        Well, yes, I suppose there is, but I highly doubt any CLP will adopt a non-Labour Party member as its candidate. They’d be expelled en masse. And whilst Salma Yaqoob is the only Respect member I have any respect for – if you’ll forgive the pun – I certainly wouldn’t support the move. However, as a Birmingham resident myself, I’m familiar with her reputation, which seems well-earned.

        If your point is about female representation, it would indeed be nice to have a woman included on the short-list and preferably someone from an atypical background for politics. The same is true for male candidates. I’m sure there are plenty of Labour candidates who fit the bill though.

      • Mr Potato

        Jayparmar be sensible.
        you mean well and at first sight is a great suggestion. But salma yaqoob stepped down as councillor due to health reasons.
        secondly, she is George Galloways colleague and was leader of the Respect Party, therefore GG’s Boss. She will no doubt be be here in Bradford during the campaign, but not to oppse GG but rather to support him.

  •  Why? Debbie’s links were just as strong and the local party thought she was ther best candidate – as she proved to be on the doorstep

  • markfergusonuk

    Too many to mention – I’m not going to pre-empt selections in seats I don’t live in. Suffice to say I’m sure when the time comes top candidates will be picked for those seats – which will need to be a priority.

  •  Purnell is toxic, and along with Byrne, is a liability. The party is unlikely to convince many who have stopped bothering to vote for it until their ideas are purged from the party

    • treborc

       I do not think Miliband is to keen on him either, I might be wrong but it seems Miliband did not take Purnell on as  an advisor, even though he offered.

    • ThePurpleBooker

      Really? What about the people in places like Harlow and Battersea who contributed to the system for all their life and felt Labour wasn’t speaking up for them? Or ethnic minority and working class people who didn’t vote Labour because they felt it didn’t understand their values and aspirations for fairness. People like Purnell, Byrne and Cruddas get it and it’s ashame you don’t.

  • Duncan Hall

    Just to update people on this – the “long list” should know who they are now.

    I know this because I’m not on it!  Ah well.  I will be helping whoever is successful during the campaign, good luck to all concerned.

    • ThePurpleBooker

      I take it you still want to be an MP at the next election?

  • Redshift

    I hope Purnell NEVER returns. 

    • ThePurpleBooker

      WHAT? Purnell needs to return, and anyway he probably will.

  • Redshift

    Why would this one be a particularly appropriate one for AWS? I’m not saying it’s inappropriate but other than it being fairly safe, why this one?

  • treborc

    More dam lawyers

  • Brumanuensis

    If Purnell is, as you say, in the leadership’s good books, then that is most unpleasant news. I can’t stand the conniving little sod. 

    (One concession. National Salary Insurance is an interesting proposal. That is the only nice thing I will say about James ‘Let’s-Charge-Commercial-Rates-on-Crisis-Loans’ Purnell).

    And don’t get me started about his record on welfare ‘reform’. Where do you think IDS got half his ideas from? Who first appointed Lord ‘Fraud’ Freud? Who got Atos in to ‘assess’ disabled people? Who gave A4e contracts?

    • ThePurpleBooker

      Iain Duncan Smith got half his ideas from rightwing Thatcherism. Purnell didn’t. James Purnell has very interesting ideas such as National Salary Insurance, universal childcare, Job Guarantee but look we are behind on welfare reform and we need to combine our ethical socialist values inspired by RH Tawney, the Co-operative movement, Robert Owen and the Christian Socialist Movement. Purnell’s ideas allow us to learn from these ideas which were lost in both Old Labour and New Labour. So James Purnell needs to come back, and I bet he will.
      Also, the crisis loans thing was in a consultation document which he scrapped.

      • Jeff_Harvey

        Blair is more likely to make a come-back as leader of the Labour Party than Purnell as an MP. In his relatively short political career Purnell caused more misery and suffering than any number of incarnate devils. 
        We shall not see his like again. Hopefully.

        • Winston_from_the_Ministry

          What odds are you prepared to offer on that? 😀

          • Jeff_Harvey

            Although it seems inappropriate for an atheist to pluck a certain number from the Book of Revelation in order to humorously try to make a point, because we’re considering the future of His  Satanic Majesty James “Call me Jim” Purnell, I’ll offer odds of 666 to 1 against the brimstone-ridden little creep becoming a Labour MP and Minister in some hypothetical future Labour government…

            … assuming of course that Labour is ever returned to office at some point in the future….

            … I offer no odds in respect to this latter eventuality.

    • Jeff_Harvey

      Purnell has never had an original idea in his life. The welfare “reform” agenda originated within the diseased brain of Lord David “I’ve always been a Tory” Freud. And Purnell stole the discredit.

  • Ibrar Hussain

    when is the selection date please update
    ibrar 

  • from Twitter, someone called Andy Hull who didn’t make it…

    Andy Hull‏ @AndyHull79 Follow
    Next time, Gadget, next time! Didn’t make the Bradford West list. On train back to London now to go canvass for Ken.

  • ThePurpleBooker

    Rupa Huq should contest Ealing Central and Acton at the next election, not Bradford West now, since it is a winnable seat and the removal of Angie Bray would be welcome. As I have said before, Imran Hussain would be a great candidate for this seat and Afzal Khan should become the next Labour MP for Manchester Central when Tony Lloyd becomes a Police and Crime Commissioner.

  • ThePurpleBooker

    Rupa Huq for Ealing Central and Acton, Afzal Khan for Manchester Central (or Manchester Withington), James Purnell and Duncan Hall for seats at the next election but Imran Hussain is the right man for Bradford West.

    • AlanGiles

      I begin to suspect you are James Purnell’s agent, mother or brother, the amount of praise you have heaped on this dismal failed ex-minister who was disloyal to the point of resigning his cabinet post a few hours before voting in the 2009 EU elections ended , and broke the news to News International (The Times to be precise). The man who insisted on implementing Freud in full, even after Freud had been bought with a peerage by the Conservative party – and – never let it be forgotten the man who made false claims for cleaning bills, and claimed the full food allowance, because he was so poor. The man who claimed that welfare claimants were “playing the system”. Bit of a hypocrite wasn’t he?

  • Dr Mohammed Salam

    I am surprised
    by Mr Potatoes comments that the candidate will not be a white because deal has
    been done. Obviously he knows something which we don’t. Come on brother tell us
    the trick and show us the way how to make a deal in this democratic process. Do
    I assume Mr potato, that you have no confidence on the NEC who is supervising and
    conducting the selection process? What a trust? But let me tell you, I am
    confident that full democratic process will apply in this selection process to
    select our choice, and make no mistake of that.

    Another interesting
    comment –“all candidates seem to be more of the same old lawyers, barristers
    and professional politicians” My friend the House of Commons is full of lawyers,
    barristers and professional politicians. Therefore we need an equally competent
    lawyer, barrister and professional politician who can argue our case by using the
    same language (I mean Lawyers’ jargon) which will be understood by them,
    specially the opposition bench. In this respect I do not see any better
    candidate than IMRAN HUSSAIN. He is
    a star in all fronts.

    I am very
    pleased to see that a lot of candidates are coming from outside Bradford. I
    welcome them for their interest but would ask them do they really know this
    constituency, can they work in this constituency? I bet not. Moreover, I feel
    they will be spending full term of their office to understand us and our issues
    and then will not have any time to do anything. Do we really want that, whilst
    we have a (Imran Hussain) home grown, highly competent, and well equipped with
    our concerns backed by proven track record of success in dealing with very
    ordinary people and making a change? Frankly speaking, I do not have time to
    wait five years to educate someone at my expense. So friends if you go back
    empty handed, please don’t be disheartened. We will still be friends and you
    will be always welcome to Bradford as our guest, we are very hospitable
    community.

    Dr
    Mohammed Salam

  • Dr Mohammed Salam

    I am surprised
    by Mr Potatoes comments that the candidate will not be a white because deal has
    been done. Obviously he knows something which we don’t. Come on brother tell us
    the trick and show us the way how to make a deal in this democratic process. Do
    I assume Mr potato, that you have no confidence on the NEC who is supervising and
    conducting the selection process? What a trust? But let me tell you, I am
    confident that full democratic process will apply in this selection process to
    select our choice, and make no mistake of that.

    Another interesting
    comment –“all candidates seem to be more of the same old lawyers, barristers
    and professional politicians” My friend the House of Commons is full of lawyers,
    barristers and professional politicians. Therefore we need an equally competent
    lawyer, barrister and professional politician who can argue our case by using the
    same language (I mean Lawyers’ jargon) which will be understood by them,
    specially the opposition bench. In this respect I do not see any better
    candidate than IMRAN HUSSAIN. He is
    a star in all fronts.

    I am very
    pleased to see that a lot of candidates are coming from outside Bradford. I
    welcome them for their interest but would ask them do they really know this
    constituency, can they work in this constituency? I bet not. Moreover, I feel
    they will be spending full term of their office to understand us and our issues
    and then will not have any time to do anything. Do we really want that, whilst
    we have a (Imran Hussain) home grown, highly competent, and well equipped with
    our concerns backed by proven track record of success in dealing with very
    ordinary people and making a change? Frankly speaking, I do not have time to
    wait five years to educate someone at my expense. So friends if you go back
    empty handed, please don’t be disheartened. We will still be friends and you
    will be always welcome to Bradford as our guest, we are very hospitable
    community.

    Dr
    Mohammed Salam

    • Mr Potato

      Dr Salam with all due respect, i know much more. Imrans family who more or less controls the our Lab branch, as his father was councillor before him, Altaf Hussain.

      All the councillors in Bradford West as you will well know, have been canvessed   and placed because of the size of their family connections so that one day Altaf and His son can take the seat from Marsha Singh as a reward for getting him elected in 1997. i know coz im one of them unfortunately. stuck and unable to stop this horsetrafding. Most unfair on all those candidates who are very capable but maybe dont have the financial and tribal support.

      Secondly sir, my point about being fed up of these lawer types is exactly what you make. We have enough lawers ( And LIARS) in council and in Parliament. The result of which is before us. Our beloved country is on its knees nationally and locally.

      Its not good enough to elect another lawer just because they are good talkers. So are most liars, they could talk for England. But do they have character and conviction and vision. do they have the strengh to go against theier own party and stand up for what they think is right for their constituants and not for their own careers and benefits so that they can rise to the top. You Know, I know, and we all in our hearts know that Imran has been groomed by his dad and Marsha , he left school, studied Law and took over his fathers seat as councillor. now he wants to be an MP. Does he have any real life experiences? No. does he have any idea what it is like to have a real job? No because he never had one.
      We are the Labour party, has he even done a day of hard labour to earn a living? NO He comes from a very wealthy family and his father is very ambitious.

      For once, Oh, for once can we not select someone who is going to serve the whole of Bradford.
      If Imran is selected it will be just another coronation within the elite in Bradford.
      someone from outside Bradford is what we need for a fresh perspective.

      Personally, i quite like to have a female,or a non asian candidate. I say this because this would reset the balance of power in Bradford West.
      If not i will vote for real Labour. George Galloway. He is what we used to be, and can be once more.

  • markfergusonuk

    Other way round I understand – Miliband asked Purnell and he said no…

    • treborc

      says all I need to know about Miliband then, needs new labour to back him up

    • ThePurpleBooker

      Yes, Ed Miliband asked Purnell to become his Chief of Staff and he refused. Apparently, he even offered Purnell a peerage and a shadow cabinet post via the House of Lords! But, the Cruddas-Purnell team needs to be in Westminster around the shadow cabinet table.

      • I hadn’t realised how desperate Ed has become.
        This certainly gives credence to the Innuit saying: Everyone loves the smell of their own farts.

  • neil nerva

    Why Bradford West should go with  Ralph BerryWhen selecting this weekend ,  Labour needs to  looks to 2015  and beyond ,  and factor in the impact of the proposed  boundary  changes. The Electoral  Calculus website  makes the new seat a  Tory marginal. The person selected will quickly  have to work to win  over  new electors    ( who will account for a third of the new seat )  and prepare for the likely  tough battle with  Phillip Davies MP  –  son of the “English Democrat”  Mayor of Doncaster. Ralph is a seasoned and experienced campaigner – he is  well suited to fighting this by election and holding the seat in 2015 As previously written Ralph would bring practical  knowledge and expertise on education , social care  and childcare to the PLP. Ralph  has a   strong record on diversity  and enabling social cohesion . This was demonstrated when he spoke at  the Accord Coalition fringe meeting  – ‘Diversity faith an Schools’. at the 2011 Labour Party conference.

  • Ibby Ullah

    Imran Hussain looks certain to win the nomination but I don’t agree with putting Asian candidates for Asian seats, likewise, I don’t agree having only white candidates for white seats. 

  • ThePurpleBooker

    That’s nonsense.

    • Jeff_Harvey

      Not if you are long-term sick, disabled or unemployed it isn’t.

  • ThePurpleBooker

    I am a bit of as fan of Purnell’s. Look his ideas can really help reshape the party. The thinking from the centre-left from Jon Cruddas, James Purnell and Maurice Glasman are really forceful within the party. He resigned on principle, and his return would be much welcome.

    • AlanGiles

      With respect you sound like a media politician, by prefacing your remarks with their favourite word: “look”

      You talk of his association with Byrne and Flint – Flint the woman who said the unemployed should be excluded from council housing waiting lists.

      He is NOT on the “centre left” he is very clearly right wing and his “ideas” (borrowed from Freud) started the worry and misery people like Sue Marsh face.

      I have no way of knowing if Ed Miliband offered him a peerage (what for? the man is barely 40 and with little experience of real life), but if Purnell returned as an MP or a Labour peer, I really would turn my back on Labour for good.

  • Duncan Hall

    Yes – if the members of the right seat want me.  I would only be looking in these here Pennine areas what I know 🙂

  • ThePurpleBooker

    Firstly, Jeff that is just cheap and offensive. You misquoted what I said, in many ways.
    On the Yvette Cooper point, they have been close friends since university, the worked very closely when she was Chief Secretary to the Treasury and he was Work and Pensions Secretary and she was very dissapointed when he stepped down.  Purnell’s responsibility agenda has been backed by Caroline Flint, Liam Byrne, Jon Cruddas, Tristram Hunt, Frank Field, Rachel Reeves, Ed Miliband (basically Purple Bookers and more).  Calling fellow comrades “little shits” is not necessary, just plain cheap and rude. On Purnell’s proposals, look at these links before you start chatting rubbish:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L3jBbBX42A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Pyna6zoA0
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/jul/27/labour-james-purnell-salary-insurance

    • Jeff_Harvey

      Ah.

      Notional policy endorsements based on casual off-the-cuff remarks made by non-entities angling for influence during informal interviews on television programmes like Newsnight and similar. 

      Give me a break!

      Purnell is a cherry-picking idiot who talks selectively about Beveridge et al as far as the laughable “responsibility agenda” goes  – a vacuous sound-bite that means different things to different people at different venues and at different times and so, ultimately, ends up meaning nothing much really to anybody – but never about “full employment” which was sine qua non to Beveridge’s concept of a “cradle to grave” welfare state, designed to accommodate the needs of a very different Great Britain as it was in ’42.

      Bar Rachel Reeves, who has not yet had enough time to sell out the dispossessed and so earn my wrath, every person you mentioned are anathema to me – a gaggle of ambitious, amoral, largely talentless careerists personifying every shortcoming associated with Blair’s New Labour folly. And as far as this  “went to the same university together” nonsense, well, as far as I am concerned unhealthy incestuous nepotism like this is one of the greatest afflictions of British politics in general and the current leadership of the Labour Party in particular. It should be stamped out not encouraged. Britain deserves to be governed by proper bona fide parliamentary democracy not by an Oxbridge mastered dynasty of mates and pals.  

      These people are NOT going to win general elections. 

       They don’t deserve to.

      Purnell is NOT and NEVER has been my comrade.

      Much less a friend to the sick, disabled and the needy.

      I wish the little sh*t would simply fade away.

      Like an old soldier…

      • ThePurpleBooker

        I mean you are the most arrogant, ill-informed and obnoxious fool I have ever come across – and I have come across many in my time. I’m friends with many open-minded people on the left of my party, but you are just dogmatic, ignorant and most of all wrong on almost all counts.

        Firstly, on policy announcements, his proposals have been backed by the IPPR, Progress, and shadow cabinet ministers including Rachel Reeves, Liz Kendall, Liam Byrne and Ed Miliband. Ed Balls has recently announced Labour would get rid of the hgiher rate pension tax relief to fund childcare, which is what Purnell proposes throughout his reforms. So it isn’t off-the-cuff, these are subsantive policies and I urge to actually watch the videos and read the article.

        On Beveridge, his reforms were to tackle the Five Giants – one of them being ‘idleness’, that is what the welfare state was built to do, challenge the Five Giants.  The “cradle to grave” idea is supposed to be challenge to these Giants in order to provide security for everyone, especially the poor but what it is not supposed to do is to encourage bad behaviour and IRRESPONSIBILITY in our society. For too log, many people feel that our welfare state has moved away from that ‘protection’ and is rewarding people who have not been behaving. I mean do you honestly believe that William Beveridge created the welfare state so that a minority of people (however small they may be) can refuse to work or even cheat the system? Do you think the men who marched the Jarrow March would be pleased to see certain this tiny minority living off the welfare state with no intention to get work? If the founders of the trade union movement saw that these people were earning benefits, but rejected the offer of work, do you think they would be please or furious? Purnell and co, support “cradle to grave” that is why they are in favour of universal free childcare for all and a National Care Service for the elderly. That is part of the same agenda, but it also demonstrating “crade to grave” – so I think you are the “cherry picking idiot” since you are deliberately picking out the facts that suit your nonsentical arguments and conveniently ignoring the whole picture.

        The “responsibility agenda” also tackles those at the top who exploit the system. Look at some City bankers earning ridiculous bonuses without working hard for them. Many of these spivs, have been earning huge sums of money at the expense of families, businesses, jobs and the wider economy and have not been liable for the losses they have made. Or for example, pay day loan companies who have financially crippled some of the poorest people in our country and are userous – that is seriously userous and irresponsible, or the “Big Six Fix” with the energy companies, who are literally increasing prices to a ridiculous level which is irresponsible, or the train companies who have been careless with fares or even certain millionaires who have refused paying their taxes.  The responsiblity agenda tackles that too, it goes to the heart of Labour’s ethical socialist tradition of mutuality, cooperation, solidarity and “self-help” – it is not some vacuuous ideas to attract Tory voters in places like Essex (though we need to get them on board to win the next election). The fact you have no respect at all for the responsibility agenda shows me that you have no concern for these things that matter to people, such as on bonuses and loan sharks.  

        Also, Labour is NOT going to win if it listens to you. You said Frank Field was your MP, and deny it showing you are a dishonest guy but worst of all, you are out of touch with the traditions of my party. Worst of all, Labour has won with these type of people in our party – THREE ELECTIONS. But it will not be sufficient, if it is unreformed for the next election. This “responsibility agenda” is part of recognising Labour’s traditions but also part of moving the party forward, which wasn’t sufficiently done during New Labour. I think you are disgusting, the way you have called Labour politicians incestuous – you are vile person. You are also clearly jealous of those who are more successful, richer and more intelligent than you are and will ever be.  My advice to you is to either shut up and let the Labour Party win so we can save the sick, the disabled and the poor from this government or “get the fuck out of my party” (and I think Keir Hardie would back me up on that too!).

    • Jeff_Harvey

      I did reply in some length to this but my comment was moderated out of existence and I really can’t be bothered to type it out again from memory.

  • ThePurpleBooker

    I’m sorry that’s just a load of bollocks. Do you even know what Blue Labour is? It’s about challenging the Washington consensus as well as the big state. It’s about reconnecting with our working class communities, ethnic minority communties and understanding the nostalgia amongst many communities. Some of what Glasman has said, isn’t really appropiate – he is a very sort of strange man, but certainly no racist.  Blue Labour understands the politics of mutuality, cooperation and relational government not big government.  This is politics of the Cooperative Movement, the Christian Socialist Movement, RH Tawney, Robert Owen, the great Labour tradition.
    By the way, would you class Jon Cruddas or Chuka Ummuna as right-of-centre politicians, because that is basically what you’ve said.

    • AlanGiles

      Can you help me? You see you have confused me. In reply to Jeff you said:

      “Calling fellow comrades “little shits” is not necessary, just plain cheap and rude.”

      BUT –  in answer to my point about your enthusiasm for an ex minister who resigned on the day of the 2009 EU elections when there will still a few hours to vote you write:

      “I’m sorry that’s just a load of bollocks”

      Even with the “sorry” isn’t the use of that rather offensive word “b*llcks” just as “cheap and rude”, or is there one rule for you and another for everyone else?

    • Jeff_Harvey

      Blue Labour is no more: it passed away some time during the third week of July last year. Didn’t  you read the obituaries? 

      • ThePurpleBooker

        I can assure you it hasn’t. Not really. It’s still alive, ticking inside the Labour machine! It’s not dead, Glasman hibernate for sometime – trust me I know.

        • Jeff_Harvey

          I hate to intrude into private grief but:

          Exclusive: the end of Blue Labour

          Blue Labour not only is gone, in point of fact, it never really existed at all in anything but word. 

          • ThePurpleBooker

            Tell that to my mate, Maurice Glasman. Your chatting nonsense, I’m afraid.

          • AlanGiles


            Tell that to my mate, Maurice Glasman”

            Your Mate???

            Since you hide behind a pseudonym, to be frank why should we believe you?

            Assuming that you are not a fantasist,  do you use expressions like “a load of b*llocks to his Lordship?

            When did you last take tea with the Queen by the way?

            You are priceless, still Sunday morning at 7 is a good time for a laugh.

          • Jeff_Harvey

            I’m beginning to suspect that the Book may be a joker…

          • AlanGiles

            Yes, that claim of personalfriendship with Lord Glasman did seem a bit unlikely….then again as I was saying to my mate Prince Philip in the pub only the other evening…….  🙂

          • Jeff_Harvey

            I said much the same thing to the Pope’s wife last week..I said much the same thing to the Pope’s wife last week…

          • Jeff_Harvey

            Rambling Lord Glasman IS one of the oddballs I was talking about in my previous comment!

            I fully expect that in a few years the only place you’ll be able to hear him speak will be from a soapbox at Speakers’ Corner in Hyde Park.

            With you listening the number of listeners in his audience might clock up more than single figures.

            Fashion is fickle.

            Fads are not long lived.

          • AlanGiles

            Jeff for what it i worth here is a fairly even-handed critique of Blue Labour:

            http://www.nextleft.org/2011/07/so-what-is-blue-labour.html 

            Just think though – we are chatting – albeit anonymously – to one of his Lordship’s “mates”!. To quote Mr. Rupert “this is the most humble day of my life”

            Kid gloves from now on for The Book! 🙂

          • Jeff_Harvey

            All these various colours of “Labour” are nothing more than pressure groups, Alan, with the pressure coming for the most part from compressed hot air!

  • ThePurpleBooker

    I’m sorry that is just a load of rubbish, Alan and if you are going to spout such rubbish then turn your back on the party, now. You clearly are a deeply backwards person. LOOK, Flint never said the unemployed should be excluded from waiting lists – that’s untrue. Purnell is ON the centre-left, clearly you are. Purnell has worked in media as well as politics, but he will return to frontline politics so bye, bye – the party can do without divisive Bennites like you.

    • AlanGiles

      There you go again -starting your snide little rant with “Look” in capitals too!

      If you want a “Labour” party that is merely another version of the Conservative party, go ahead, but if your attitude to older Labour voters (in my case going back to the early 60s) is a puerile ” the party can do without divisive Bennites like you”, then I suspect you will be in opposition for a very long time.

      Perhaps you feel your arrogance give your arguments (such as they are) extra gravitas – but they don’t.

    • AlanGiles


      LOOK, Flint never said the unemployed should be excluded from waiting lists ”

      Erm, she did actually – on February 5th 2008. Just check the record. I believe Shelter had something to say about her little wheeze. Let’s just say they were not very impressed

      • ThePurpleBooker

        Flint didn’t say that she said the unemployed should volunteer and actively seek work in return for housing. It’s part of Labour’s agenda!

  • ThePurpleBooker

    I doubt the boundary changes will go through, Tory MPs and the Lib Dems hate it.

    • The boundary changes will go through. 

      • ThePurpleBooker

        I wouldn’t bet on it. Iain Duncan Smith will lose his seat according to the boundary changes. There will be a massive Tory rebellion which will damage Cameron due to the changes, and the Lib Dems cannot even stomach it themselves. It won’t get through.

        • Brumanuensis

          I think the boundary changes will be watered down, but they’ll still go through. The temptation to kick Labour will be too much for the Tories and Liberals to resist.

  • Mr Potato

    No doubt Imran Hussain has done very well for himself. HIMSELF!
    What about everyone elses aspirations? Its ok for the son of a wealthy influential father to bankroll his son in a coronation after Marsha Singh, but what about the common working class man and woman that we are supposed to stand for?

    No, No No   Imran is more of the same that we need to distance ouselves from. Peoplelike Dr Salaam who tends to put multiple comments and repeats them here regularly is a good friend of inrans father and imran. what do you expect? coz he is going to go on and on about how good he is.
    more of the same i say, more of the same.
    WE dont want more of the same.

  • Brumanuensis

    Alan, I agree with you on Flint and Purnell, but this isn’t helpful. PurpleBooker and you have differences, but ultimately, mutual requests that the other leave the Labour Party don’t do much to build common ground. ‘Broad Church’ and all that.

    The same applies for you PurpleBooker. Can’t we please just be civil?

    • AlanGiles

      With respect, I wasn’t quite saying that. “Purple Booker” suggested I leave (“bye, bye”….very grown up!), because I prefer a party left of centre, which Labour really always was until 1994 – at the present the the Greens are the only left party I would vote for. 

      If Purple Bookers (which reminds me of Laws and Cleggs Orange Bookers – power over principle), Blue Labourites, Ultras, call them what you will want me and others like me out, that’s fine, but I don’t think New/Blue/Purple/Purnellist Labour will ever win an election while there is still a Conservative party: we don’t need two.

      • ThePurpleBooker

        Left of centre. You are a Marxist. If you back the Greens, then join them and then show massive disloyalty to Labour. I mean you just don’t get it, Alan Giles, you are anologue in a digital world. You expect Labour to execute Blair, nationalise the world, have taxes of 100% or something equally ridiculous! Your politics doesn’t strike me as centre-left, it’s just hard-left, feel-good, irrevelant drivel which is well past its sell-by-date – I think 1983 was the year.

        • AlanGiles

          I am a Marxist am I?

          Prove it.

          I want Labour to “execute Blair”. Do I? Where have I said that?

          All I want Blair to do is go away and make money and feel a pang every time things happen like Thursday where 6 young men between the ages of 19-33 were slaughtered in a pointless war that he caused us to be involved in.

          With respect, your remarks, apart from being personally offensive are becoming shrill, overwrought and incrediblhy silly. I would suggest you try to get a grip. Frankly,  this post of yours sounds like the rantings of a hysterical teenager.

          • ThePurpleBooker

            I’m sorry but all your comments have been distorting and rude, you are likely to be a Marxist since you describe yourself as centre-left and then you think James is a Thatcherite and you can’t even spell well. I’d rather be a hysterical teenager (which is ageist to the youth) than someone sounding like a child, writing like a child but with his politics formed during the Ice Age!

          • AlanGiles

            Your dismal little insults really mean nothing because you haven’t got the courage to sign them.

            Are you suggesting Purnell is left-wing or even left of centre.

            Now you really are beginning to bore me. Go off and annoy somebody else.

            I am not the only one who holds these views abt Purnell, as you would see if you bothered to read this thread. 

          • Dave Postles

             Ridiculous.

        • Dave Postles

          ‘Marxist’?  Oh dear, there must be many ‘fellow-travellers’ here then.  Still, any paloyorno is a palomino.

          • AlanGiles

            Actually, when I read “Purple Booker” and his/her views about me, I thought how easy it is to make silly claims when you hide behind a non-commital screen name like that.

            Easy – but incredibly cowardly. I wish he’d grow a pair and put his(?) real name to it.

            But the tired and emotional outpourings of the “Book” makes you realise that the right wing of Labour is as intolerant as the Tory right – man y of us here express views which would have been regarded as mainstream Labour just a few years ago – now we are “dangerous extremists”.

            I think if that sort go on like that they are going to be very lonely in opposition, when they lose us “extremists”, and are just left with their own pure brand of right-wing Tory Lite

          • ThePurpleBooker

            The book is at the heart of the movement’s history. We are rejecting the big state calling for a more relational and active government. You aren’t mainstream Labour, you are just a withering Bennite!

          • AlanGiles

            Yes.Ifyousayso, oh, cowardlyone.

    • Jeff_Harvey

      Rodney King, as he was videoed suffering a vicious beating by members of the Los Angeles police department was heard to moan, “Why can’t we all just get along?” A burly Californian police officer was stamping down on his head at the time in order to “help him” the officer later claimed in court after being accused of police brutality.

      If I was beaten black and blue I’d like to think that I might find it in myself to forgive my attackers if I was the only one injured and if my attackers realised that what they did was wrong, apologised to me personally in respect to their misdeeds, and promised to try to behave differently in the future. 

      This said I really DON’T want to be a member of any “church” – however “broad” its walls – if senior members of the congregation have previously worked overtime to arrange attacks on the mentally ill, assaults on the disabled, waged campaigns of psychological warfare against the chronic and the long-term sick, even stooping to summoning the terminally ill to undergo forced “work focused” interviews in order to determine how much effort might be squeezed out of the dying before they eventually and inevitably perished. I especially don’t want to be a part of any such “broad church” when the architects of such travesties and inequities show no sign of remorse in respect to their previous actions and even express ambitions to perpetrate similar or even worse atrocities in the future if given the opportunity. The span of the known universe would not be broad enough to make a situation like that tolerable to me or many like me. 

      As far as James Purnell is concerned Labour’s “Broad Church” mythology can go to hell and, hopefully, take the malicious vainglorious figure of James Purnell down into the pit with it.

      • AlanGiles

        Well said, Jeff

        • Jeff_Harvey

          Considering how much I loathe shady characters like James Purnell, I thought my words were quite restrained if anything to be honest, Alan.

          • AlanGiles

            Hi Jeff, I have to say that I think it is very apt “The Book”, who is such a shy and retiring character, uses a colour in his/her name, since they are colour blind. Jimbo says things that many people sporting a blue rosette would say, but because he wore a red one he is wonderful, marvelous: but the Book hates Duncan-Smith and the Tories who say much the same things! and he/she can’t seem to accept or admit that it was Purnell who introduced the loathsome Freud’s ideas in the first place.

            I suppose having said this, I must now stand by for some more anonymous insults from the brave Book 🙂

      • ThePurpleBooker

        This comment is not welcome in this “Broad Church”.

        • AlanGiles

          Not quite right – it is “not welcome” to you. Luckilly for the rest of us you neither own this site or have any right to  tell the rest of us what we are allowed to think.

        • Jeff_Harvey

          I couldn’t give a toss.

          The “broad church” of the Labour Party is now so crammed with useless careerists and narrow minds that the Party has next to no  relevance to me personally these days.

          I’m just a bystander watching a house divided against itself slowly burning down and collapsing into ash.

          The sad truth of the matter is that Labour, politically, is absolutely going nowhere and seems to be in a hurry to get there as soon as possible.

          The ship of fools is sinking.

  • Sam

    Seems like someone’s blowing they own trumpet…

  • Danyal Ali

    I am beginning to form the opinion that mr potato is a respect party member who has infiltrated our site because of the comments he is making. I think his comments should be removed.

    • Dr Salam

      your opinion is 110% correct.
      Dr Salam

    • Mr Potato

      Sir, i have been Labour all my life. i hide not the fact that i admire George Galloway for his infatigability and strength of character.
      I certainly am not a respectmember at the moent, but thanks for that idea. I might just join upif we get more of the same. I’m just sickofit all. If New Labour carries on like this, we will all lose the willto live.

  • jaime taurosangastre candelas

    It is slightly depressing to read both Mohammed Salam’s posts and Mr Potato’s posts, which in combination lead me to suspect that the selection committee may be faced with a not entirely transparent choice.  Is this a stitch-up for a cabal of selectors, based on familial loyalties?  I’ve got no insight into Bradford politics, so it is an honest question.

  • Poundpennies

    No offence guys but a local lad is needed here, if you have a tiny bit of knowledge about Bradford politics, you would agree that Imran Hussain is the absolutely perfect candidate for Bradford west. Regardless of his family background etc he has worked very hard as a councillor. With support he has from his colleagues on council, cllrs like amir, Arshad, Sajawal, Shabir and so on, it should be a walk in the park for imran

  • Brumanuensis

    On the long-shot that he’s selected and elected, would Fadel Takrouri be the only MP of Palestinian origins?

  • ThePurpleBooker

    You’re now being extremely two-faced because you are wrong. Utterly wrong on Blue Labour, with a massive flaw in your argument! He didn’t like Brown’s leadership, so he took the right decision to resign unlike Charles Clarke who was too scared to challenge Brown and thought he’d be better but was so weak he kept his mouth shut and tried making manoeuvres! 

    • AlanGiles

      I admire your defence of the failed Purnell, but your admiration is giving you amnesia:

      Purnell resigned two hours before the EU elections ended in June 2009 and he broke the story himself to News International  “The Times”.

      Purnell was under the impression David Milliband was about to mount a coup against Gordon Brown, and he (Purnell) would do well out of it with a more “important” job. As before, David Miliband lost his nerve (if you recall there had been the highly choerographed resignation of Blears with her “rocking the boat” broach, when she smirked her resignation a week earlier).

      Given his disloyalty, and the fact Purnell had been found out in the expenses scandal, by falsely claiming for cleaning in his flat that was never done, and the other usual perks, like free food, I suspect he knew his days were numbered and he chose to leave Parliament at the 2010 election.

      Perhaps he thinks that by 2015 his dishonesty, disloyalty and hypocrisy will have been forgotten and he will be handed a safe seat in the North of England.

      You might be right – he might be back, but if you truly believe men down to his standard are fit and proper MPs for a once proud and c0nsiderate party, then I am afraid we have very different ideas.

      • “handed a safe seat in the North of England”
        Safe seats in the North for New Labour zomboids – it’s become institutional.
        The New Labour parachutists will be with us for a generation; unless they’re tempted by greener pastures elsewhere as northern pro-Labour momentum winds down in response to the smash-and-grab approach.

        • AlanGiles

          You are no doubt right Dave. It’s about time people woke up. If I lived in Birkenhead, for example, I would want to know why my “Labour” (?) M.P. was busy supporting Duncan-Smith. High time he retired to enjoy his paintings  and fine wines.

        • jaime taurosangastre candelas

          Without safe seats in the north, 4 0f the 5 candidates for the last Labour leadership election would not have a platform.  All are distinguished by being right-on New Labour.  Only one of the 4 has any connection at all with the constituency he represents.

      • ThePurpleBooker

        We do, I mean you complete misunderstand the situation regarding Purnell. I mean you have shown yourself to be an utter fool, and don’t call me a “pig”, you Militant idiot. He left because of Brown’s leadership (which let’s be honest, wasn’t very good). He has got refreshing ideas for Labour on free universal childcare, national salary insurance, Job Guarantee, etc. and most thinking people in Labour, from the right like Frank Field and from the left like Jon Cruddas, are calling for him to return – why? Because he has ideas, vision and he is an asset (more of an asset than you will ever be) to our great movement.
        I think he could have been a viable choice for leader of the party, with Jon Cruddas as his deputy and Stella Creasy and Chuka Ummuna in his shadow cabinet.
        By the way, Labour can win the 2015 election (and probably will), with or without you, if anything we would do better without your constant moaning, bitching and rude sniping such as the way you’ve spread inveracious myths, untruths but also harsh irrelevent insults. And the reason, I refuse to use my name is because I am greatly suspicious of wierdos who love using cyberspace. I hope you have a nice time in TUSC or the Socialist Workers Alliance or whatever. By the way, Labour has a massive majority in Birkenhead so whether you vote for Frank Field or not is an irrelevance – funny, that since you are an irrelevance.

        • AlanGiles

          You talk about being “rude”  fantasist, have you read some of the insults you come out with?.

          BTW as I live in London I couldn’t vote for the fatuous Field.

          As you are so clever I should have thought you would have known that.

          You don’t use your real name because you just enjoying being abusive but haven’t got the courage of your convictions.

          And if there are any “wierdos” here, I would respectfully suggest your pretence of great knowledge, “mates” with the great and the good, mixed with gutter langauge marks you out for that role rather than people like Jeff, Dave and me, who give our real names. You could be anybody: you might be a 35 year old bloke living with his mum who’d be too timid to say boo to a goose to somebodies face, which is why you are such a vicious little man here. You are sad and deluded

          • ThePurpleBooker

            I’m not, I am a member of the Labour Party in Lewisham and my mother died a few years ago.
            I work as a journalist actually.  

  • ThePurpleBooker

    But answer my question are Jon Cruddas and Chuka Ummuna men on the centre-right?

    • AlanGiles

      I’ll answer your question since you ask so nicely: Ummuna, no but Cruddas I find a very strange case: a man who is unwilling to commit to a job – he stood for the deputy leadership and did very well – when offered a job he turned it down – surely that would have been a golden opportunity to have infuenced policy – what was the point of standing if he had no other ambition?

      The strange double act of him and David Miliband – more a case of The Odd Couple than Ant & Dec.

      TBH I don’t quite know what Cruddas thinks or believes – I wonder if he does himself?.

      And if you must draw out this thread, could I ask you not to use the word “b*llocks” in any response to me agaoin?. I know Alistair Campbell thinks langauge like that is clever, but it just comes over as coarse and disrespectful

      • ThePurpleBooker

        Well Ummuna is in Blue Labour and you’ve basically insulted Jon Cruddas. I mean your ridiculous!

        • AlanGiles

          It is a great pity that you choose to mouth off hiding behind that screen-name. Why not have the guts to tell us your real one, even if only first name.

          I think kit not unreasonable to question why Mr Cruddas put himself forward for selection when he refused all offers to take a place at the table.

          As for Ummuna, he apparently belongs to an organisation gthat no longer exists! (see Dave’s post.

          So – according to you, I am a Marxist, I am out of the Stone Age and now I’m ridiculous – yet you haven’t got the guts  to call me these things openly, hiding behind the screen-name you’ve given yourself. It’s a good job cyberspace exists because otherwise you would b e writing swear-words on the walls of public lavatories in felt tip pen – that’s how “brave” you are – all mouth and no trousers.

          Let me tell you this: the left wing didn’t lose you the 2010 election, and they won’t lose you the 2015 one. Pig ignorant “supporters”  like you will do that all by yourselves.

          • ThePurpleBooker

            By the way, Blue Labour is not an organization and it is not dead. I think I would know far more than you, you are not in the loop instead you indulge in your monolithic view of politics.
            If Labour listened to you for a second, it will consign itself to electoral defeat so join TUSC where your Militant ramblings would certainly be much appreciated, because they are not needed, wanted or welcome in a  party of government – then again, you want Labour to be six feet under.
            As for Bradford West, which is what the blog is about, have the grace not to campaign for Galloway since Imran Hussain – who I think will be the next candidate – is actually a good candidate, and is reasonal – something that you are not. Btw, explain your point on Chuka Ummuna again?

          • AlanGiles

            Tell us who you really are and we might take you seriously.

            Why are you scared of being open?

      • ThePurpleBooker

        You’ve also shown absolutely no logic in your argument, since you’ve called Blue Labour rightwing and then you admit that one its biggest backers in the shadow cabinet isn’t. Do you live on chatting so much nonsense?

  • ThePurpleBooker

    You utterly miss the point, it’s like you formed your politics in the Middle Ages! Another Tory party – what the hell, next minute you will be telling me that Denis Healy was a Thatcherite and that socialism will be brought from aliens from Mars! If Labour listened to you, we will be out of power until God knows when!
    The fact is we are “Labour” founded by workers, not shirkers. We lost the election, because some Labour voters felt we weren’t listening on housing, but on fairness whether its bankers being rewarded for failure, or the real scroungers pick-pocketing from hard-workers like single mums who work for the kids day and night, just for a minimum wage! That is what the likes of Purnell, Flint, Byrne and Ed Miliband get! It’s ashame you don’t get it, since you are so out of touch.

    • AlanGiles

      Nurse – the screens! 🙂

  • ThePurpleBooker

    Oh by the way, he is actually turning 42! If only you could get your facts right!

    • AlanGiles

      I am beginning to think you fancy him, duckie!. Certainly a bit of hero-worship going on with you, really getting shrill and hysterical like a little girl. Calm down.

  • Jeff_Harvey

    Amusing. Quite bonkers but amusing in a cruel way – like a penny tour of Bedlam to play spot the loony in the 1800s. And WRONG pretty much in EVERY particular.

    Your command of the English language leaves much to be desired. For example in context my use of the word “incestuous” meant “improperly intimate or interconnected” NOT “sexually connected”, obviously, since none of the people concerned, in context, are biologically related. And where did I claim that Kenneth Williams lookie-likey Frank Field was my MP?

    I could go on but as you have already comprehensively made such a fool of yourself what would be the point? 

    I cannot make up my mind if you are a jester, madman, or simply very stupid. I am however very grateful to receive such a torrent of bile and dislike from you which I interpret as indicating complete polar contrariness in respect to our characters and personalities. To be the complete opposite of you in all things pleases me more than I can say and makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Without even meaning to you have inadvertently made my day.

    Thank you.

    Sincerely.

    • ThePurpleBooker

      I think even Eric Pickles has got a brain bigger than yours…
      If you are so bright, which you are not, talk about substance, debate with me

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